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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Well what is the rule regarding extra time/golden point?'"
There isn't a rule as such for a friendly/world series as I imagine this will be the first time a golden point has been used to decide a game like this.
Therefore there is no precedent and whatever they chose to do for this match, or series of matches, is correct.
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| Quote ="The Yellow Giraffe"There isn't a rule as such for a friendly/world series as I imagine this will be the first time a golden point has been used to decide a game like this.
Therefore there is no precedent and whatever they chose to do for this match, or series of matches, is correct.'"
So because it's the first time there is no rule?
Give over.
If it's a straight 10 minutes then o.k. but that is unfair, would you agree?
If it's 10 minutes each way, no problem.
I'll try ask the ref on Tuesday or Wednesday on twitter.
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| Quote ="St pete"And they still beat our top teams! That makes it worse that two poor NRL teams who ain't played any rugby can fly half way around the world and beat us in a game they don't really care about!'"
Fair enough...you haven't bought into the concept which is usually the way of the average rugby league fan. And while all this happens union have quietly built a monster of a European competition. ... but you crack on and hope Leigh get back into superleague because it's only ten minutes away.
I'm sure Wayne Bennett can't sleep at night knowing he's not fit to be in a competition with a team coached by shaun long and Kieron cunningham. ..
Despair at league fans at times I honestly do.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So because it's the first time there is no rule?
Give over.
If it's a straight 10 minutes then o.k. but that is unfair, would you agree?
If it's 10 minutes each way, no problem.
I'll try ask the ref on Tuesday or Wednesday on twitter.'"
They chose how they were going to settle the game, it was the same for both teams, nobody was disadvantaged. What is your problem?
It was completely 100% fair. Both teams had chances to pin the opposition in their own 20. If Wigan failed to do that or failed to keep their heads and not give penalties away then they only have themselves to blame.
Accept defeat graciously for once in your life and stop whining like a 12-year old girl. No wonder nobody likes Wigan, you never ever take responsibility for yor own downfall; there always has to be mitigating circumstances with you lot.
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| Quote ="St pete"And they still beat our top teams! That makes it worse that two poor NRL teams who ain't played any rugby can fly half way around the world and beat us in a game they don't really care about!'"
I don't know whether you watch the NRL but if you don't then I can safely advise you that just because a team is low down the league at the end of one season in the NRL does not mean that same team cannot go ahead and win the comp during the following season. I believe the Roosters weren't too hot in the season prior to the one in which they came top and won the GF, if memory serves. The NRL is just more of a level playing field financially and resource wise than the SL which is why more of their teams can win their comp than the SL.
And who is to say which teams are our top teams this season anyway? We're only two games in.
What we saw in the last two games were two games played out by evenly matched teams. The difference in both IMO were the kicking games and errors. Although the Broncos seemed to make more errors than St George, Wigan and Warrington both appeared to make more errors than their Australian counterparts. That makes a massive difference in a tight game, especially one played on a potato patch. The other difference was quality of kicking game/final plays and that comes down to the halves. I don't think either Wire or Wigan have spectacular halves although the younger half in each team could develop into a good player over time.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't know whether you watch the NRL but if you don't then I can safely advise you that just because a team is low down the league at the end of one season in the NRL does not mean that same team cannot go ahead and win the comp during the following season. I believe the Roosters weren't too hot in the season prior to the one in which they came top and won the GF, if memory serves. The NRL is just more of a level playing field financially and resource wise than the SL which is why more of their teams can win their comp than the SL.
And who is to say which teams are our top teams this season anyway? We're only two games in.
What we saw in the last two games were two games played out by evenly matched teams. The difference in both IMO were the kicking games and errors. Although the Broncos seemed to make more errors than St George, Wigan and Warrington both appeared to make more errors than their Australian counterparts. That makes a massive difference in a tight game, especially one played on a potato patch. The other difference was quality of kicking game/final plays and that comes down to the halves. I don't think either Wire or Wigan have spectacular halves although the younger half in each team could develop into a good player over time.'"
Pour me a whisky.
That's the most sensible thing I have ever seen you post.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Pour me a whisky.
That's the most sensible thing I have ever seen you post.
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Can I have one too please?
Good post SaintsFan
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| Quote ="Dux"Agreed. I wouldn't be surprised if the top Aussie clubs are more interested in coming over next time, as it's been clearly demonstrated that there's a public appetite for it.
There may have been a lukewarm response to the concept from Aussie administrators, but I don't think their players can be accused of not caring after the two fixtures we've seen.'"
They don't even know what the concept is as they don't care. Our clubs ain't even interested in it, a host of clubs over declared themselves out also!
If we going to do it, let's do it proper but I fear we ain't as good as we think and if we went back to the system when our top 8 v NRL top 8 I think wed see some big scores.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"So because it's the first time there is no rule?
Give over.
If it's a straight 10 minutes then o.k. but that is unfair, would you agree?
If it's 10 minutes each way, no problem.
I'll try ask the ref on Tuesday or Wednesday on twitter.'"
Eddie made reference to the 10 minutes being 'the first period of extra time' so I'm pretty sure it would have been 10 minutes each half.
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| Eddie has not got a clue what is going on.
Sky is RUBBISH, they cud not wait for the kick to go over before they finished the programme, and went to the e the call football, id rather go and watch wigan play.
Dont go into extra time tonite as if you do win , fat chance, no one will see you pick the cup up, as SKY will be showing football before the final whistle is blown.
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| Like I've said all week. It's not the right time for the world series as we are miles and miles behind them.
If we attempted the top 8 v NRL top 8 again it would be totally embarrassing and we'd be lucky to win a few games.
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| Quote ="St pete"Like I've said all week. It's not the right time for the world series as we are miles and miles behind them.
If we attempted the top 8 v NRL top 8 again it would be totally embarrassing and we'd be lucky to win a few games.'"
I think we should stick with this format though.Let it grow, its been a good weekend.A chance for the fans to see these big names play in our country and the the crowds have been great.The rugby in the most part enthralling, despite the flat end but sometimes you just have to tip your hat to a great team and say 'too good'.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"I think we should stick with this format though.Let it grow, its been a good weekend.A chance for the fans to see these big names play in our country and the the crowds have been great.The rugby in the most part enthralling, despite the flat end but sometimes you just have to tip your hat to a great team and say 'too good'.'"
It's been good for fans but we've had two average NRL teams beat two of our best and the best NRL team absolutely embarrass super leagues best.
The gates may say let it continue but we will continue to lose the series and it will just fade away and die.
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| St George and Brisbane were mid table last season. I reckon they'll comfortably make the 8 this time, but Souths and the Roosters are some way ahead of the chasing pack IMO.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"St George and Brisbane were mid table last season. I reckon they'll comfortably make the 8 this time, but Souths and the Roosters are some way ahead of the chasing pack IMO.'"
I don't think St George or Brisbane will make it easily to be honest
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| I don't know whether to bring myself off about how good the bunnies were or chop it off about how poor we were.
Thankfully I've decided to do neither.
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| Quote ="St pete"I don't think St George or Brisbane will make it easily to be honest'"
St George have quality in all the key positions and plenty of pace to test anyone but they lack the grunt up front to knock over the top teams. Brisbane have the opposite problem, but if their halves can click they'll improve on last year.
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| St George drew 12 all with Souths in the Charity Shield game a few weeks ago.
Hey but lets all pretend they are no good with a team with players like Dugan. Widdop and Marshall.
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| I'd continue with it.
Like has been pointed out, we lost by a record margin, but that record margin was only 1 point more than the previous record loss, which Saints also held.
That was in the days when the cap was closer and the SL players were better.
It would be a shame to scrap a concept because of one poor result.
Been to plenty of one sided affairs before and never came away thinking scrap the concept.
As for the ozzies only sending the 8th and 11th placed teams, well that's not true. We won't know how good the SL and NRL teams are until the end of the season. It could be the top 3 in the NRL having played 3 teams that did not make the Super 8's! (an exageration I know, but the point being, the teams that finished last year are not the teams that played this weekend).
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"I'd continue with it.
Like has been pointed out, we lost by a record margin, but that record margin was only 1 point more than the previous record loss, which Saints also held.
That was in the days when the cap was closer and the SL players were better.
It would be a shame to scrap a concept because of one poor result.
Been to plenty of one sided affairs before and never came away thinking scrap the concept.
As for the ozzies only sending the 8th and 11th placed teams, well that's not true. We won't know how good the SL and NRL teams are until the end of the season. It could be the top 3 in the NRL having played 3 teams that did not make the Super 8's! (an exageration I know, but the point being, the teams that finished last year are not the teams that played this weekend).'"
What does 3 games a season against the NRL actually achieve? I get the WCC game is a big game and chance to be world champs but what do we achieve wirh the other games?
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| Brisbane looked very tidy in the pack. But they are desperately short in the backs. If that's their favoured halfback combination I wouldn't put money on them to achieve much this season.
Difficult to assess St. George.
From what little I've seen I think Souths, Canterbury and the Warriors will be very competitive.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"It may help if we also had officials who knew the rules. Just had a "tweet" from an aussie journo friend of mine. Extra time golden point is 10 minutes (5 minutes each way). So Wigan should have had the advantage of pinning Brisbane back in that second half of extra time.'"
Give over. Your pack was crushed like an empty beer can by half time. You could barely get out of your own half during golden point whilst they were making 10-15 yards per carry. If you were going to snatch victory you had to do it in normal time because there was no way in hell your forwards were gaining any advantage during extra time.
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| Quote ="mark_m"St George drew 12 all with Souths in the Charity Shield game a few weeks ago.
Hey but lets all pretend they are no good with a team with players like Dugan. Widdop and Marshall.'"
Marshall looks very ordinary since his return from Union.
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| Quote ="St pete"What does 3 games a season against the NRL actually achieve? I get the WCC game is a big game and chance to be world champs but what do we achieve wirh the other games?'"
One thing is for sure though, the let's scrap it (an expanded and meaningful competition) before it has been given a real chance lobby would be in a stronger position if it wasn't for the other two games....get that?
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| Wigan played 3 sets in the oppositon half in the 2nd half.
Dominant pack that isn't
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