Haha..... Other than me being big, fat, lazy, white and not quite as good at rugby (I'm happy to play down the actual gap in our abilities), you could be right.... oh no, wait.... I'm a man of my word!

Are we still talking about Greg Eastwood?

I bet Segeyaro wishes he could be where Barba is going!!

No he would be homesick

Did Joel Moon tell you to say that?

For what it is worth I reckon Parcell will make you lot forget Chico pretty quickly. I tried to find the odds on Parcell for Man of Steel but can't find any agencies that have him up. I reckon he will have a great season and could be worth a small bet if the odds are right.

He's 25-1 on SkyBet, who are a bit lazy with their odds for RL. Ben Currie is also 25-1 for MOS and Manfredi 16-1 for top try scorer yet both are going to miss most of the season with knee injuries.

I reckon that, in addition to the requirement of decent performances, Parcell's MOS chances will depend on Leeds winning a trophy. Rightly or wrongly, failure to do so will lead to him being regarded as part of a team that underachieved. Paradoxically, should we pick one up he'll be considered to have turned the side round.

Did Chicko's team of mental health specialists tell you to say that?

It's a player vote and it takes place before the playoffs so doesn't depend on winning a trophy and we've the likes of Chase win at Cas when they finished 9th I believe and Solomona got close last year for them too.

History suggests that pivot/spine players at 1,6,7 & 9 are more likely to win it though.

Kind of supports my point. Cas aren't a big 4 team, they perform well and their players get the accolades. Whereas the expectation on us is greater so it seems that we need to play better still. But point taken about it being decided pre-GF, I'd forgotten that.

The odds on one of our players winning it this year must be lengthening then.

A lot of people on this thread keep saying that Leeds haven't lost anything but that's patently nonsense:
1. We had to pay a fee for his replacement
2. That fee may have been impacted by the selling club's knowledge that we were under time pressure to resolve this
3. McDermott's work over the off season have had to be changed which will have impacted all the coaches and one would imagine the rest of the players.

Meanwhile Segeyaro has lost:
1. Wages he's done nothing to earn

So explain to me again why I should view him as anything other than the bad guy and Leeds as the wronged party in this?

Something about mental health, apparently.

98 pages and we're still stuck somewhere between Denial and Anger.

time to move on from this, we have got a replacemnt that may prove to be as good if not better. he is stuck frozen out of the game and he has no one to blame but himself.

They lost 8 weeks of recruitment time, that's all. No other hookers were available or signed up during that time, so IMO they didn't really. If Segeyaro had rejected the contract at the deadline, Leeds would have had to get a replacement anyway, and would still have had to pay a fee.

But even so, if anything, pass on that fee to the Sharks, not the silly £250k tag that GH keeps trotting out.

As for who's the bad guy - 100% that's Segeyaro, but that doesn't mean Leeds have to drop to his level.



Absolutely time to move on, but why ruin a blokes career for a couple of years in what is already a short career for what in the grand scheme of things was a mistake of his that he's then badly tried to reverse. Seems overkill to me.

Everybody knows that they won't have to pay that price to get him in reality. Probably could get him for half of that, possibly even less but they haven't made a single offer. Can't be that hard for them to offer something in the region of £50-100k. Must be saving some money now that Barba is heading to RU.

Adrian Vowles won it while at Cas too and he was 13. Also Daz Clarke.

Haven't cas had more players pick up MOS in Sl than Leeds

Yes they have.Must be that unconcious bias the rugby league writers have. As for Segeyero,well what Big Jim said,you cannot say fairer than that.

Rugby League Cares.

Segeyaro was clearly very happy at Leeds whilst he was here but he was then tapped up by Cronulla when he returned to Oz,but they won't pay a fee for him

How are Leeds guilty of anything here?

Now they've lost Barba, the Sharks have no excuse not to be able to pay a small fee for Segeyaro if they want him.

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