Maybe I used the wrong word Arthur. What I’m trying to say is it would be great if they could win the next 3, but to do that would mean beating Wigan, Catalans and Cas. They should beat Cas, but the others will take some doing, and the bit I’m trying to get at is that they will need to hold their nerve when inevitably some things go wrong.

This side works relatively hard for each other, I agree, but they don’t do the little things that good sides do. We don’t push hard enough when defending, or back up enough when attacking.

Most of all, the thing that frustrates me about this side is that they are mentally weak. We lose games we should win, but don’t have the mental strength or skill to close out.

That’s what I meant.

Yep. Fair enough. I'm splitting hairs here but I wouldn't say they are not mentally weak, more mentally and technically deficient in some of the key areas of the game. Sadly that's something only GH's chequebook will be able to rectify in the short term. On todays game: Effort and execution outstanding given the limitations in players available. Lisone showing us fans that sometimes it pays to be patient. Smith showing that he's ready to be captain. Newman and Fusitua (always good when fit) ran really hard and direct. Sinfield nice and composed although he's still a couple years away in my opinion. All in all a great win, and a reminder (to me) of why I still love going to games.

After all my misgivings yesterday I thoroughly enjoyed that - the day out, the sun, the entertainment and the win. Perhaps it was the pressure being off (in my mind anyway) but today reinforced what a great game RL is, and how enjoyable an away trip is when there's no expectation (again, in my mind).

Not guilty m’lud, been in Newcastle today.

Glad they won and Lisone had a big game.

Heard a whisper Nene is not returning but it’s from an unreliable source so may be cobblers.

Hey Flex the school snitch is making stuff up and whispering to the teacher

I took my son and eldest daughter today and had a great time. Language a bit fruity for a six year old but enjoyed our lads sticking it to Hull all game was funny.

I thought Sinfield had a really poor game, but I think he should come good in the end. I’m just being honest.

Fusitu’a was very good; I think we need to retain him if we can and hope for the best with injuries.

Olpherts annoys me every time he touches the ball, I’d rather play an academy lad.

Hooley was decent again at FB to the point where I’m not sure Miller was a priority compared to some other positions - let’s see what else we come up with.

The team generally is still so frustrating to watch, consistent brain fart moments every game where you just put your head in your hands. Errors and discipline keeps killing us; we get out of trouble because we do work hard and we do have some talented players but there is a lot of work to do still.

Anyway a great day in lovely weather enjoyed that.

Didn't think Sinfield was poor, but do agree that he isn't really ready. You could see why the club have been cautious about playing him. He'd probably benefit from a championship loan move next year.

We could always play Miller in the halves and keep Hooley at FB.

I like Sinfield and he goes well at Academy level, but today he had one good kick all game, one out on the full early, didn’t do much except shift the ball in attack and fell off 2-3 tackles, one of which led directly to a try. He’s a good player and prospect but he has to be able to defend against men if he’s going to break into first grade. Agree he might need a season in Championship next year. Still very young of course.

Biggest issue seems to be upper body strength/tackle technique at the moment.

I do like James McDonnell lots. Was it him that put the kick through for Hooley to score first half?

Sinfield not having played any minutes in the first team all year (or next to non) was always going to see success for him today to just get through the game without really having a great impact either way. I still think he should have been used earlier.

McDonnel is a fantastic player, a really astute signing.

That could work if we can’t find better options: my issue is quality. If Leeds want to create another dynasty we’re going to need real quality in these key positions. To be fair Miller does look skilful.

Excellent win, never easy at Hull , especially with a patched up team. On a slightly downbeat note that Hull team is possibly the worst Hull team I have seen in years.

I think we've heard that far too often about Hull over the last decade or so.

I wonder if Hooley ought to train to play stand off as well as full back for next season. Not to be first choice, but to give more options. There's a good player in there.

Good win - well done all round, need to continue with Sinfield, we wont make the six so he needs to build his confidence and get used to the pace of SL. Will give everyone a better idea of what parts of his game need working on

Fasitua - is an enigma - there is a good player in there if you can get him on the field - does he have the heart for the challenge.

Newman needs to concentrate on his game and stop questioning ever decision that doesn't go his way.

Lisone - top job - a player who give the whole atmosphere a lift - nice sidestep

Rohan complaining about the ruck or the ref today?

The team just need to finish strong - I don't mean winning every game.

Excellent win, flew back from lanzarote while match was on, checked the score soon as we landed, made for an enjoyable drive home.

Hooley's a stange one, usually lads his age from the championship are there physically, but maybe need work on skills, he's the opposite, he's a really fundamentally sound player, but lacking a bit physically, he's got the hight carry a fair bit more size, hopefully he can make it an emphasis this off season, basically - bigger, faster, stronger, all 3 should be doable from where he is now. But good to see him gaining confidence and going into next season knowing he belongs at this level.

At hooleys age hes not going to really increase his speed.

Another bonus yesterday was Austin's Cas getting pumped by Warrington. Come on Wakey, send them down. Maybe though concerning from the outside these defectors can galvanise the group that as RS says plays for the name on the front not the back.

I did have a bit of chuckle at the Cas result especially given Austin's latest "revelations". He'll be moaning about Cas before long.

An athlete, or anyone for that matter, can 100% increase speed in their mid twenties if they make it a focus to do so

Now Hooley may be doing all he can already and is just about at his bodys capacity, i dont know

If there is more he can do, then he should, there is a good player there, but to take the next step, he needs to improve athletically imo, be that size, power, stength, speed...Or some combination from them all

It’s worth noting that Hooley missed most of this preseason with an injury, and if there’s gonna be big changes in body type etc when a player turns professional preseason is generally when they do this.

I think Hooley could certainly put on some size by the looks of him. I don't think he'll ever be lightning quick, but he's no slouch either.

Plus been a full time player instead of part time should help, I imagine there’s more improvement in him. Good to see after many wrote him off after the Hull KR game

I'm really chuffed for him to be honest. Even if these few games end up being the highlights of his career - I think he'll now kick on myself - he can hold his head up and be proud of what he's done.

Come back well after that horror show game. He's worth keeping as back up i think,especiually if full time/pre season helps him progress