Different players who offer different things to the team IMO.

Delaney is less subtle but perhaps more physical, while Ablett has a wider range of skills without losing too much in physicality.

Add in the prodigious work rate of a fit again JJB and it creates a very well balanced back row.

Some of the crap on the last 10 pages or so i've flicked through from some of you rhinos fans is pathetic.

You call yourself rugby fans, pfft. Categorize you into your own unique category as "leeds fans" whether it be football or rugby your all the same.

Some of the Leeds posters on here have a head on their shoulders, but by god a majority talk a load of crap.

Whether it's ambitions, or money, Ellis has signed for Hull. We've had a huge turn around from last season, they seems to be a totally different mentality, the backing from the owners, and the hard work/commitment from all the coaching staff is being reflected by the way our players are this season, they have fire in their bellies, they are fighting, our defense is the best in the league @ round 7. When the weather was poor we ground out results, when the weather like against widnes last week was fair, we hammered them and played some very attractive/attacking rugby, whilst having a defense as strong as anything.

Some of you rhinos posters talk about hull not having the pedigree to be a top 4 team, and ellis makes no difference is a load of bollucks, without ellis this season I think we have the potential to break the top 4, and I think come the end of the season you may find yourself out of the top 4!

Quick question what's your last few seasons final positions in the table? 5th and 4th? From previous seasons of finishing second or top, aren't you in decline?

If you think the final position of the table means everything fair enough, you should know like last season you can win
some silverware outside the top 4!

Hudders have been finishing higher, and in the top 4/5 recent seasons, but they ain't won !

You leeds fans are so fickle.

Anyhow, we'll be playing you in a few weeks time, can't wait.

FYI here's the current superleague table, 1 point behind you, we both have a game in hand! You'll be looking up soon.

Don't think anyone has said what your implying. The general gust is yes Ellis is a good player and would improve our SR but we already have a strong pack In this area and isn't a massive loss, the money could be spent elsewhere.

Not entirely confident in your statement that ablett isn't fit to lace Ellis boots though. Think we are getting a little carried away with the abilities of Ellis on this!!

well when you come to Headingley in your drunken foul mouthed hordes on july 6th swearing in front of mums with young kids .I hope you enjoy yourselves

While I don't agree with anything you have said I must congratulate you on one thing.

Your avatar is a real good likeness to the woman folk, and males in hull. Well done

Just a quick FYI - it's not the final League position the decides the Championship.

Wow, what a rant, makes no sense what so ever but Wow.

Are we in decline because we finished 4th & 5th the last 2 years, a quick look at this years table would suggest not. We won in 07, 08, 09 with virtually the same team. Of the 09 Grand Final team Donald, Senior, Diskin, Lauitiiti and Burgess have left and Smith returned but hasn't been the same player. Buderus and Eastwood came and went and McDermott took over a year earlier than planned with 2 of his major players out injured. We have also moved Sinfield from 13 to 6, Burrow from 7 to 9 and McGuire from 6 to 7. We've had plenty of change since 2009 and we still got to 2 cup finals, 1 Grand Final win and we were only 80 mins away in 2010. We have been and still are transitioning and still managed to do pretty well.

Well done Gotcha on finally getting one right, keep up the good work



Ablett filled the void left by Ellis and has never looked out of place

Just to even things out, I still don't agree with you on Delaney

Last time I looked there was an 8 page thread on your board about an ongoing decline in hull's attendances stretching back to 2006. Remind me what year you last won a trophy? Surely HFC fans wouldn't be so fickle as to abandon a team that's not winning?

It's all that rocking about on those trawlers. Addles the brain, dontcha know?

I'm sure if you check your recent history properly you'll see 07,08,09 GF WINNERS! 2010 Beaten CC finalists and losing play off semi finalists minus Peacock and Mcguire then 2011 Beaten CC finalists and GF winners.
Of course where we finsihed in the table really mattered NOT and saying yer the best defence after only 7 games means Fook all i remember all and sundry telling us what you lot were gonna do to the rest of SL when you signed Fitzgibbon ,"Baileys b##ch" O'meley ,Cyclops Long and that Pudding Luaki what happened there?
Thus far for 2012 WCC winners of course all that points to us in decline and points to you lot potentially finishing above us in the table this year!!!


Ellis is a great signing and will add quality to your mob but you've a long way to go before breaking through into the "Elite" in terms of winning GF's and consistantly been contenders.
However fickle you may say we are the Trophy Cabinet is doing just fine and talk of our decline and you rising to the top shows how thick as a Whale omlette you really are.
Enjoy your World class signing he'll do well imo but when Briscoe exits and you are still 6 quality players short then we'll see who's looking up.

Wow all that success has gone to your head, no wonder when the going get's tough your fans and players turn into big cry babies and get dirty!

As for Bailey, he's a thug, don't like it when he get's it back though when radders smashed him, he's such a thick b4stard, he wouldn't even know when he's been beaten!

I'll say no more.

Thanks

Some interesting comments on this thread from rhinos fans about Hull FC's credentials to become a top team in SL and compete for silverware. The overwhelming view appears to be that the Ellis signing won't be enough to make any significant difference to their current position in the SL pecking order. In other words, they shall remain whipping boy SL rabble for the time being.

I shall make a note of such opinions and possibly refer back to them at some future date, particularly if the rhinos draw Hull again in the CC or the play-offs. It goes without saying that I shall yet again be declaring such encounters under the category of easy, low-intensity fixtures against whipping boy SL rabble where the rhinos just have to turn up to win. I also expect the very same people on this thread who have poo-pooed Hull's ambitions and chances of joining the big boys at the top (with or without Ellis) to engage in a complete u-turn by declaring my opinion as arrogant and unjustified - an agenda designed to set up the rhinos (win or lose) - despite overwhelming evidence of past results and performances indicating the relentless one-sided nature of such encounters.

No problem tit

Radders last seen on his @ss in a snotty heap at HQ after ANOTHER pummeling from TMFMISL and then decided he couldn't hack it anymore and retired broken and in pieces.
I also love the opening paragraph IF success has gone to our heads what's your excuse for posting complete bollox without ANYTHING to back it up other than 1 good signing?
You also forget to inform us what happened when you last signed so many super-stars and were telling us all Hull were back blah blah blah.

So aren't you convinced by their imminent rise to top dogs Keith??

Hopefully Huaraki can gain some form and offer us some Ali impact type play of the bench which we lack at the moment.

And by so doing you will increase the quality of this forum ten fold.


Epic fail.

Wouldn't hold your breath.

He showed some glimpses of what he can do in the first couple of games and in pre-season. He had a stinker against Wigan and has been injured really since but he isn't as bad as some make out.

I was being slightly tounge in cheek. He was awful start of lat season particulary in defence. Improved alot through the year, and he did start pre season in good form. Tends to struggle against decent opposition Wigan this year and a bad display against wire in play offs cost him a GF. He isn't as bad as I or others make out but I am not convinced he is going to ever live up to Ali in his prime

Interesting how many non Leeds fans are trying to accuse us of being arrogant and disrespectful when the majority of Leeds fans have said that...
- Ellis is a very good signing for them but they still need a couple more signings before they're capable of reaching a Grand Final (an opinion most Hull fans have stated also).
- And that it would of been good to of signed him ourselves but its also good that we can use the cap space to keep hold of are current players and youngsters instead.

Hardly the worst arrogance and disrespect I've seen but ok then.

Was he that bad against Wire? Thought he was very unlucky to miss out on the GF, in the previous play off games I thought he was very good, and nobody let us down in that win against Wire.