It won't go 4 years the EU will not allow it - and if Scotland gets independence then the Labour has no chance of getting elected.

FWIW I don't think Boris will be the next PM it will be either May or Gove.

Corbyn is unelectable on one point alone - Nuclear disarmament - you can't have the main man who would not press the button.

But that vote was made by people based on lies peddled to them, which is now becoming more and more clear. I have the utmost respect for those that based their vote on something other than immigration, whether I agree or not. But many millions voted purely on the immigration lies, which is coming across quite clear now is not going to change. Those people should have a right to be asked how they now feel.

The lies told by the Remain camp are as numerous and more profound and watching them frantically back peddling on their gloom (Andrew Marr is currently roasting one on a spit as I type) is far more telling than Polly Toynbee crying on every TV spot she can find.

This new PM ...democratically elected or unelected by the people?

Good luck with the cross party steering...i see the Lib Dems are the first to break ranks on that...

But isn't the issue more that pretty much everything we were told by both sides was based on guesswork and self interest?

We elect politicians to make decisions for us, but when we get to the biggest decision of (most of) our lifetimes they bicker and leave us to make an ill-informed decision so they don't shoulder any blame. Dereliction of duty, no more, no less.

My God, how did you manage to ring/canvass all those millions so quickly in order to formulate your opinion?

If you are basing your (undemocratic) call for a second referendum upon the premise that one or both of the protagonists lied about what would happen post-vote, then I would suggest that every General Election ever fought needs to be annulled.

What I suspect is more the case is that this is another cry-baby, self-pitying, sore loser, anti-democratic, clutching-at-straws "attempt" to control the masses of the UK public by telling them that they are not clever enough to formulate their own opinion. No wonder you crave the warm bosom of the unelected Eurocrats - they really do know how to control.

The arrogance of the left raises its ugly head once again - David Lammy suggesting Parliament should just ignore the vote!! You couldn't make it up.

I expected to wake up on Friday with people pushing money round in wheelbarrows and my house to have no value - that is what remain suggested would happen. Nobody lied more than the remain campaign - only a fool would suggest otherwise

so the several million on the petition are all out voters from thursdays election? i didn't realise.

I, as well many millions i suspect,voted out because of many other reasons regards a failing EU other than immigration yet it seems that can't be accepted by many unhappy with the result.

The EU referendum was in the Tory manifesto. If "the people" really didn't want one then it's obvious what they should have done. This government was elected partly because it would give the country a chance to choose regarding the EU. If young people really didn't want to leave the EU then maybe the 60% of them that can't be bothered to vote should have made their way to a polling station.

Just a thought.

Come on we all know many did vote leave on the immigration issue...and nothing else. Many heard the very clever effective mantra take back control repeated many times in debates and was all they heard...thinking it meant stopping EU migration. That was lie number two exposed on day 1 by Daniel Hannan.
Of course there was also attempted deception by the remain side culminating in the pathetic Osborne threatened emergency budget.

But this is not like a general election where things can be theoretically changed after five years when people see the effects of their vote. Unlikely though with our very democratic FPTP system and labour condemned to obscurity because of SNP taking Scotland and a leader who unfortunately fails to inspire.

It has been a dereliction of duty by politicians and the media especially the tabloids.

Did those here in favour of Brexit forsee the destruction of the UK in the form of Scotland Ireland and Gibraltar all anxiously eyeing the future? The time effort and money in just dealing with these issues is huge..unwinding 43 years of intrinsically linked legislation...new trade deals...all under massive pressure to be a priority. Cornwall Wales Hartlepool will be at the back of the queue. Those people least equipped for the "bumps in the road" are going to be very disappointed when the land of milk and honey does not flow their way despite their "win"

I read now the major car manufactures are looking at moving production away from UK. No more investment in favour of plants that will remain inside free trade area. Airbus too. The banks. What exactly is going to replace all this? It was all predicted mind by the experts who we were encouraged to ignore by Gove. Not sure where that might put future governments acting on expert advice...

Is all this worthwhile ? For what exactly again? Please remind me. Better democracy? Was that it? A fanciful promise of better trade deals elsewhere? When exactly? With what will we be trading?

One more before I leave this, anyone thinking a Leave vote is responsible for the SNP deciding to go for another referendum on independence should know they were always going to do it the moment they thought they could win, it's in bold black and white in their 2016 manifesto. A key pledge made to their supporters. They were always going.

I still consider the whole situation to be an utter shambles. The leave campaign won so why the reluctance to press the self-destruct button and invoke the leave notice.
Are they finally waking up to the disaster which seems to be unfolding. Hannan claims freedom of movement will continue, Farage admits the 350 million will not go to the NHS . Also he claims what looks like a coming recession won't be down to brexit it's down to a world wide slow down.
Both Johnson and Goves body language hardly look like they have won. A ukip spokesman claims that when we are out of the EU the rump of the ukip party will be absorbed into the Tory party. Good luck with that.
The Tory party is torn apart, the Labour Party is in turmoil. The EU quite rightly has had enough and is literally telling us to push off.
As I remarked before an utter shambles.

You didn't even vote.

I counted them in return for £110

Rubbing your hands together at the idea of a re-do then.

There'll probably be another General Election before then... November is my guess.

Count me in for the counting again

The terminology in the manifesto is very clear:

We believe that the Scottish Parliament should have the right to hold another referendum if there is clear and sustained evidence that independence has become the preferred option of a majority of the Scottish people – [ior if there is a significant and material change in the circumstances that prevailed in 2014, such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against our will.[/i

Yep. The first part "significant and material change" is the gun they have been holding since the referendum defeat. It could be made to apply to pretty much anything they don't like. Sturgeon actually said on Friday during her big statement that they were planning to have another referendum but the EU vote has "accelerated" the process. They were already looking at around 4 years down the road, now they have moved that forward. They were going to call for one anyway, the first moment they thought they could win - no matter what. T

Actually this is fairly catastrophic for them. Previously they were looking at the mechanism for a EU member country splitting and both staying in the EU. Tricky, but not a huge obstacle. What they are faced with now (as it would take around 2 years to plan and hold the referendum - if the UK parliament agrees to it ) is the prospect of being already outside the EU, trying to get back in, put up a full border, trying to enter the Euro and that's all if the EU will have them. With the oil price collapse they are going to be potentially relying on EU money to stay solvent. Will the EU actually want them?

The EU seems to want the Balkan countries !!!? I genuinely don't know, but I suspect their economies are hardly better than those relative to Scotland. It would be a sweet taste of political revenge for the EU to help break up the UK (if the EU doesn't break up first of course)

To repeat, the SNP were already planning to leave the UK as soon as they thought they could win a referendum - it says so in their manifesto. The EU vote was irrelevant, all it did was change the timing slightly. This isn't me speculating, Sturgeon said it on Friday on TV - she said they were planning on 4 years, now they are bringing it forward, but it's still going to take them 2 and that's if any UK government isn't too busy to say yes.
Have you heard the noises the SNP are making about opposing the referendum result in parliament now? They confirm my thoughts that this is a disaster for them and their ultimate goal of breaking up the UK on their terms.
To repeat, yet again, it's fundamental to the SNP to break up the UK. The sheer bloody cheek of them to blame anyone or anything else is beyond belief.

And as for the EU "revenge" theory, don't be soft. With one of their big net contributers leaving do they really want another bill? The Balkans was empire building, expanding borders. None of that applies to Scotland. And the last EU expansion happened before the Euro crisis, before Greece. It's a very different environment now for new.

Who is going to "compete" in this? I'll have to run myself just to have someone to vote for.

I'm trying to remain optimistic that the official opposition can get their act together after manufacturing Jexit.

Not on this mornings evidence. He's not going anywhere. By the end of the week the "Shadow Cabinet" will consist of him, McDonald and Dianne Abbott.

Another Gang of Four might just materialise yet....history does repeat itself.

Got to just love the Labour Party MPs. At a time when they should be in the ascendency holding this poxy Gov to account for the almighty shiitestorm they have created with the media baying for answers we have the news dominated by equally self serving pillocks.

I see the EEA option is being slowly dribbled out as the way forward (which won't be so bad if agreed to, but the anti immigration lot aren't going to be best pleased when they realise they have been conned).

... Just hope our duplicitous representatives with no fekking plan in place manage to achieve it. "Germany will still want to sell their cars, France their wine; the EU needs us more than we need them ..." etc. But how much do we import from Luxembourg? Slovenia? Latvia? etc They also get a vote on this. Germany will need to do lots of horse trading with more concessions to the 'minnows' And we will end up with our hopeful faces pressed against the window.

As before though Article 50 has not yet being invoked...and the EU is apparently backtracking on the pressure to act immediately. It seems nobody is in a hurry to start this

Just one last bit from me....found this on t'internet. Don't you just wish more voices like this had been heard during this horribly divisive campaign. Facts and facts only.

Bit of a choppy ride on the markets on Friday. Best advice I can give is sit on your hands and ride out this inevitable period of uncertainty while keeping an eye out for one or two genuine long term bargains. The Pound fell sharply against all major currencies. Many UK listed multinationals generate profits and pay dividends denominated in US dollars so a weaker Pound will tend to have a positive effect on them (e.g. my BAT shares shot up 133p and I’ll get a bigger divi next time). Moody’s have put the UK’s (very important in trade negotiations) credit rating on negative watch but the BoE has a £250Bn contingency fund in case there’s a liquidity crunch. We import about 40% to 50% of our food so supermarket prices will be going up soon along with petrol, diesel and all other imported goods and probably domestic gas prices as well. We “pensioners” should be largely insulated from those effects because they’ll show up in the inflation figures via which our pensions are indexed ; it's workers on low wages who will take the biggest hit because they spend the greater part of their income on the essentials.
Foreign holidays and currency will be dearer too of course. Will the EHIC system still work post Brexit or is the cost of travel insurance for Europe about to rocket ? What about flight delay/cancellation rules ?

Personally I’d have preferred to stay in. I think it’s a shame we didn’t decide to stay and use our hard won privileged member status (which the EU has now revoked – which presents some short term risks in itself because it insulated us in some ways) and the power of our veto to press for reform (which I think is coming anyway). As a nation we don’t usually run away from a battle, especially one of principle, but this time we have. So be it. On a purely philosophical note I’m saddened that we’re distancing ourselves from other great nations with cultures, beliefs and values the most similar to our own.

A referendum is not legally binding of course. In a Swiss referendum a few years back the Swiss govt. overturned the result. Enabling the initiation of Article 50 will require an Act of Parliament to be passed by a majority of MPs, essentially to convert the non-binding referendum result into a statutory instrument by a majority vote of our MPs. I think an overturn by Parliament is an unlikely scenario here although it is technically possible . The majority of MPs are in favour of IN and Mr. Cameron would have known that when he set the date and so would Mr. Johnson of course. Thus the prevarication by OUT is interesting but I’d be wary of reading too much into it. The EU is trying hard to force the issue but has absolutely no executive power to do so, all they can do is stand on the touchline and shout ; the timing of the triggering of Article 50 is entirely in the hands of the leaving state.
Meanwhile we’re still full EU members with all our trade deals and our EU rights and our veto intact. Politics is a very dirty, very devious game and no doubt there’s an awful lot of horse trading going on in the smoked filled rooms both in Westminster and in Brussels.
However there is a very real possibility of the Tories calling a General Election with the Labour party being in such disarray at the moment. That could set the moggie amongst the magpies in all sorts of ways.
A pro-NHS non-partisan pressure group called 38 Degrees North (with which I have some association) has challenged OUT to categorically promise they will build a new hospital every week as per their campaign claims. Chickens are starting to wing their way home to roost.

But political speculation aside, coming out will by no means be the utter catastrophe the IN crowd have been claiming it will be. But neither is it the “glorious new opportunity” or “independence day” the OUT crowd claim that it will be. No nation is truly independent these days ; cut off our food imports and we’ll starve to death, cut off our oil and gas and the nation literally grinds to a halt. Some EU derived laws may or may not be revoked (will we scrap VAT on domestic energy ? not ruddy likely !) , we may or may not get a decent trade deal with the remaining 27 EU states which may or may not include free movement and a contribution to the EU pot. Personally I reckon any trade deal will still be subject to free movement and possibly a Norway style “membership fee” and it’s obviously got to be subject to EU regulations on goods and services. Result : little or no change, probably an overall negative. The 53 non-EU countries with whom the EU has a bloc trade agreement for us be each individually subject to WTO rules instead until we’ve negotiated the terms of each one individually . But of course they’ll soon come under intense pressure from the EU – a much, much bigger trading bloc with far more clout than us - to not give us a trade advantage over the EU. Result : little or no change, probably an overall negative. Whether any firms will move out of the UK and/or reduce their investment here (= cut jobs) remains an open question, odds on they’re sitting on their hands until the dust has settled before making that decision. But there are rumours a few banks have that in mind. Financial Services account for about 20% of our entire GDP and it is technically possible for the EU to what in effect amounts to revoking the UK banking system’s Euro trading license as a non-EU state. What about Scotland ? Suppose Scotland leaves the Union and joins/remains in the EU. That’ll open up a right old can of worms not least because we’d presumably need “Passport to Pimlico” (or in this case Peebles !) style border controls to prevent “free movement” EU migrants and illegals entering England and Wales ! Indeed one could argue that we now have that potential scenario from the Irish Republic via the Northern Ireland border. The Mayor of Calais is calling for our Border Service to be removed from French soil. They only have to give us , I think I’m right in saying, 1 month’s notice and the gates would be unlocked.

Pandora’s Box has been more than just opened ; the lid has been ruddy well blown off !
But when the last faint echoes of all the distortions, unsupported speculation and hollow rhetoric voiced by both camps have finally faded into the ether and we get back to dealing with facts will then dawn the painful realisation that whilst much has changed on the surface little will really have changed. The Emperor will simply have a new set of clothes.