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| Quote ="rollin thunder"For the first time a quite a few years, we have genuine competition for places and depth specially in the pack, so Tony smith Type rotation can be done and if players are not hitting the standard then yes we can drop them and give someone else a go. Thats not a bad thing, too much since 2017 have we had no choice but to go every week with what we have, now we can be more selective, out if form your out, have to wait for your chance again.'"
My point is it's round 1 what did anyone who played yesterday warrant to be dropped if we were half way through Season and some players weren't pulling there weight for the team then fair enough drop them but after 1 round drop someone for basically not having a bad game is ridiculous.
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| If it’s round 1, you should only be dropped for something totally stupid like, oh I don’t know, sticking your hand out at a kick off when we’ve just scored, giving them the ball in our half....
I wouldn’t drop Sutcliffe for that, but I would let him know such half dness isn’t acceptable. Compare that with the way Broadbent took the interception.
We go with the same squad unless someone is either injured or newly available, but I would play Smith as a ball handling player in the middle, moving Sutcliffe back to left centre.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"My point is it's round 1 what did anyone who played yesterday warrant to be dropped if we were half way through Season and some players weren't pulling there weight for the team then fair enough drop them but after 1 round drop someone for basically not having a bad game is ridiculous.'"
The “well he didn’t do anything wrong so can’t be dropped” is a poor excuse, even after round 1. Seem to remember Matt Adamson dropped for the 2004 GF after one out off form game and replaced by a young JJB. We need this philosophy other wise we except the mediocre. Mellor T Briscoe were very poor, so yes even after round 1 drop them or at least give them a warning that performances like that next week and they they will lose their place for round 3.
In other news Sean Wane announces his England squad next week how can we be name an England squad for the WC in November now, and we wonder why we gave not beat the Aussies for 50 years and are never likely to again.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"The “well he didn’t do anything wrong so can’t be dropped” is a poor excuse, even after round 1. Seem to remember Matt Adamson dropped for the 2004 GF after one out off form game and replaced by a young JJB. We need this philosophy other wise we except the mediocre. Mellor T Briscoe were very poor, so yes even after round 1 drop them or at least give them a warning that performances like that next week and they they will lose their place for round 3.
In other news Sean Wane announces his England squad next week how can we be name an England squad for the WC in November now, and we wonder why we gave not beat the Aussies for 50 years and are never likely to again.'"
For me Mellor and T.Briscoe didn't really do anything that drastic to be dropped wouldn't say they were our best performers but like I said it's round 1 players need to get up to speed of things before we judge performances and make rash decisions of not picking a player after only 80 mins of rugby.
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| I thought it was good that all our bench came on and made a genuine contribution,it isn't often you can say that.
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"The “well he didn’t do anything wrong so can’t be dropped” is a poor excuse, even after round 1. Seem to remember Matt Adamson dropped for the 2004 GF after one out off form game and replaced by a young JJB. We need this philosophy other wise we except the mediocre. Mellor T Briscoe were very poor, so yes even after round 1 drop them or at least give them a warning that performances like that next week and they they will lose their place for round 3.
In other news Sean Wane announces his England squad next week how can we be name an England squad for the WC in November now, and we wonder why we gave not beat the Aussies for 50 years and are never likely to again.'"
Its only a train on squad not the actual squad.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I still think Myler’s deficiencies at FB will become more apparent as the year goes on - having said that he is by far our best option currently. I’m still not convinced a fit Walker is the answer either, although he was in good form a few years ago.
Really excited about a Newman/Broadbent future; those boys could both develop into international players.
Martin and Mellor both need to do more but one coming off injury and another COVID; be interesting to see how they go through the season.'"
Agree with all this Jim
Myler looks really good when he pushes up into the line in the opposition's 20 and he certainly knows how to pick a final pass or even get onto the end of any breaks and to score himself, I suppose that is what he was renowned for as a half back playing at his best at the Wolves whilst playing outside of Briers who was the controlling half back.(A bit like he is now whilst playing behind Gale, even though he's playing at full back)
Defensively he was at fault for giving Johnstone 10 metres room on the touchline side (Although T Briscoe was also at fault too) When IMO his job is to only give a speedster like Johnstone 5 metres and to take him out irrespective of if he passes the ball inside to a supporting player.
Martin and Mellor certainly need to offer far more in attack than was evident yesterday from them both especially with Sam Walters chomping at the bit for a role in the 17
I was really impressed with Cam Smith when he came on and he would be in my starting side each week at 13
Broadbent was also very good in attack although he did miss a couple of tackles, although Bill Tupou is a very good centre and has ripped holes on his edge against more seasoned pro's than Jack
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| There might have been an argument to play A Sutcliffe on the right and Jack on the left, where he’s more used to.
What I would say is that despite some defensive lapses he is adding more to the team going forward than most of the rest of the side.
This is again why I question re-signing L Sutcliffe - he seems a popular lad but he doesn’t get in my 17 even now when everyone else is fit, never mind about next year.
I’d be giving Jack a run on that left edge at least until Hurrell is fit again.
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| This site "Mellor did nothing and should be dropped next week"
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| Good as that is we need a back rower who does more than make the tackles that come their way, make some impact with the ball.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"This site "Mellor did nothing and should be dropped next week"
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Who knows best........i wonder.'" No stats for Tetevano or Thompson
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"No stats for Tetevano or Thompson'"
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"This site "Mellor did nothing and should be dropped next week"
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Luke Briscoe made over 140 metres he's still s#*$ stats dont prove anything.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Luke Briscoe made over 140 metres he's still s#*$ stats dont prove anything.'"
But they prove Mellor didnt do nothing surely.
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"But they prove Mellor didnt do nothing surely.'" It shows he worked in defence but did little in attack. He was either not running the right lines or Gale was not putting him through the holes. Hopefully this is an area where we will improve.
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| Quote ="RHINO-MARK"Luke Briscoe made over 140 metres he's still s#*$ stats dont prove anything.'"
Probably better than Tom though
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"It shows he worked in defence but did little in attack. He was either not running the right lines or Gale was not putting him through the holes. Hopefully this is an area where we will improve.'"
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"Gale did not look like putting anyone through a gap apart from Johnstone'"
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| Quote ="Marty Grrrrrrrrrr!"This site "Mellor did nothing and should be dropped next week"
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Marty you always used to post positive and knowledgeable comments with regards to the whole club and more times than not I certainly agreed with you. but for some reason only known to you, you have recently started posting mischievous posts lately?
What's your honest opinion of our 2 back rowers performances offensively Marty or were you happy with their offensive performances ?
I'm not sure that "this site" has wanted players (Like Mellor or Martin) dropped after only 1 game as per your quote?
I will stand by my comment tho
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Martin and Mellor certainly need to offer far more in attack than was evident yesterday from them both especially with Sam Walters chomping at the bit for a role in the 17
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| Martin and Mellor both had disrupted pre-seasons, there’s plenty of time to find form.
Also can’t really judge until we get proper and settled half backs in place again.
Personally I’d be finding a way to get Walters on the field sooner rather than later.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Martin and Mellor both had disrupted pre-seasons, there’s plenty of time to find form.
Also can’t really judge until we get proper and settled half backs in place again.
Personally I’d be finding a way to get Walters on the field sooner rather than later.'" I think we will have to wait until one of the back rowers is injured before Walters is to come in.If either Martin or Mellor are injured then i would replace with Walters and keep Donaldson on the bench.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"I think we will have to wait until one of the back rowers is injured before Walters is to come in.If either Martin or Mellor are injured then i would replace with Walters and keep Donaldson on the bench.'"
I'm sure you're right that it'll pan out like this. I'd probably bring Walters in from the bench myself, I see him more as a threat in offence once the game opens up a little, at this stage in his career. He's what, 110kg already? And still only a pup. Was thinking he might end up at prop before he's finished actually - if he fills out he could be like a good Wayne McDonald.
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| Broadbent getting some fine praise from Agar. Interview from Serious About Rugby League.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Broadbent getting some fine praise from Agar. Interview from Serious About Rugby League.'"
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