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| Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.
We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.
Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.
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| Quote ="Jamie101"I was well up for going and my student card is valid for another 5 weeks, so this is the last game almost I could have got a concession ticket for - I could have gone for just £9.
I've never been to a cup semi-final of a team I support (and won't for a while otherwise, as an NUFC football fan!) and really want us to go to Wembley as i've similarly never been there before and might not ever get chance to in the football.
We have been pants for weeks and my MA research project is due in in 6 days, yet I was planning on getting a ticket still at the Bradford, even though common sense told me not to due as I would be better using the time to sort any last-minute issues with my project. However, I was forgoing common sense and was going to go.
Then we were just as bad / worse against Bradford and I thought 'you know what, what is the point? They aren't bothered and have been short changing me.'
Even though it would just be £9 (plus travel) since May their effort and commitment hasn't matched mine at times.
To the poster who mentioned football, it is more expensive, yes - but I would say it has become more family-orientated / diverse. But similarly there, I know many who have had season tickets (at a range of clubs) for years who have stopped renewing. Whatever you pay, and however much disposable income you have, I think generally people want to see effort and commitment.
We all make commitments to be there every other week - to go to away games, to go to cup games and this impacts financially, annoys our partners as we are unavailable, changes when we work. If Leeds play 100% on Sat and somehow lose by 40 points I will be less bothered than if they bumble along and scam a win from it somehow.
So I will watch on TV, I will scream and eff and jeff at the TV, get told to be quiet by others in the house and will probably be unable to focus on my project after if we lose as I will be gutted. That is my commitment to them in this game, as theirs has fallen short for several weeks now and worst of all is that there hasn't been any noticeable effort to give 100% and come back through the other side of it.
I know it isn't the same thing, but if you are in a relationship with someone and when you meet up they just go through the motions and are pretty half-a$$sed about everything, but keep offering you future dates (that you have to pay for), eventually you say 'i'm not really getting back equivalent from what i have been putting in for the last few months - so i think i will skip this time and go out with my mates instead, thanks'.
Then maybe next time the date will put a bit more effort in, knowing that you won't just blindly and loyally accept everything they throw at you...
Hmm.'"
Cool story
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.
We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.
Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.'"
When the games are being played in the west side of the pennines.
Shock!
What a numpty.
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| I'm watching it on the sofa with afew peeves. On my best behaviour for this one I'm afraid. No more getting f-cked eating a kebab box outside a takeaway. Not for this one anyway.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Cool story
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Haha! I am assuming this was sarcastic..? I can go on a bit sometimes!
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| Quote ="Jamie101"Even though it would just be £9 (plus travel) since May their effort and commitment hasn't matched mine at times.'"
You heroic son of a gun, stories will be written and films made depicting the lengths and events of your effort and commitment.
Quote ="Jamie101"I know it isn't the same thing, but if you are in a relationship with someone and when you meet up they just go through the motions and are pretty half-a$$sed about everything, but keep offering you future dates (that you have to pay for), eventually you say 'i'm not really getting back equivalent from what i have been putting in for the last few months - so i think i will skip this time and go out with my mates instead, thanks'.
Then maybe next time the date will put a bit more effort in, knowing that you won't just blindly and loyally accept everything they throw at you.'"
Terrible comparison. In rugby the commitment for the team is to perform at a very high level and show great effort and put on an entertaining show and put their bodies on the line.....whereas the commitment for the fan is to turn up and watch. Pity any potential partner for you with that thinking
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.
We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.
Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.'"
Plus Widnes fans have had 20 odd years to save up since their last big cup game...
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| Quote ="Jamie101"
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This was the opportune moment to step away from this particular analogy.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"This was the opportune moment to step away from this particular analogy.'"
Well yeah, you live and learn. Just be happy I am still fairly new here so have yet to take to start down the path of hurling personal insults at those who disagree with me!
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| Quote ="Jamie101"Well yeah, you live and learn. Just be happy I am still fairly new here so have yet to take to start down the path of hurling personal insults at those who disagree with me!
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Be extra careful about using the analogy the other way round.
A lot of girls don't like to be romantically compared with Rugby League.
Flighty creatures.
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Be extra careful about using the analogy the other way round.
A lot of girls don't like to be romantically compared with Rugby League.
Flighty creatures.'"
How about this for an analogy.
You go out on a Friday night and splash your hard earned cash for someone else to use their body to entertain you and at the end leave you satisfied?
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| Quote ="El Diablo"Plus Widnes fans have had 20 odd years to save up since their last big cup game...'"
hey, Widnes fan..........
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Can't even sell 8,000 tickets? So much for a self-styled 'big club'.
We've sold all our tickets for our game as have our neighbours Warrington.
Conclusion...RL fans west of the Pennines are far more passionate about our clubs.'"
The serious answer is that in the 18 full seasons since Super League started Widnes fans have had just 1 cup semi final to pay out for and no top grade finals or playoffs (IIRC).
In the same 18 seasons Leeds have had:
13 Challenge Cup Semi Finals
32 Super League Playoff games
7 Challenge Cup Finals
8 Super League Grand Finals
& 6 World Club Challenges
You can see how a Cup semi final might slip down the priority list for people. Especially when it's on the other side of the Pennines, Leeds haven't been playing well and it's on TV.
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| I'm going. Got 2 tickets today and the woman in the shop said they'd had a big rush on sales today.
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| I'm in Newcastle on Saturday, might catch it on TV, then again I might do something more productive and go for a nice long walk along the coast.
Being a rugby league fan these days is like being a member of a secret society where details of meetings are whispered from one member to the other, when the RFL give a toss about publicising the game to the great world outside of the M62 corridor then the great world outside the M62 corridor may sit up and take notice, until then, a lingering death where no-one really cares.
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| I'm watching updates on Twitter and game highlights on t'internet the next day. I do have tickets for the final though
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"I'm in Newcastle on Saturday, might catch it on TV, then again I might do something more productive and go for a nice long walk along the coast.
Being a rugby league fan these days is like being a member of a secret society where details of meetings are whispered from one member to the other, when the RFL give a toss about publicising the game to the great world outside of the M62 corridor then the great world outside the M62 corridor may sit up and take notice, until then, a lingering death where no-one really cares.'"
Having lived outside the M62 corridor for over 30 years I can only really recall perhaps a decade that bucked that trend. Lingering death, perhaps. But it'll comfortably linger longer than either you or I, I suspect.
As for a north east coastal walk, if you've never been to Ross Links (about an hour north of Newcastle) I strongly recommend it.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"As for a north east coastal walk, if you've never been to Ross Links (about an hour north of Newcastle) I strongly recommend it.'"
Not heard of that but may seek it out, if not this weekend then on one of the many others on the wife's sabbaticals to her roots, I have all day Saturday to kill and leaving the wife at her sisters, no-one to kill it with, the day spreads out before me in one long empty "must do something fulfilling" space and yet I just know that I'll end up in The Ship at Low Newton, to quote Michael Corleone, "Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in again..."
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| Quote ="Richie"I'm watching updates on Twitter and game highlights on t'internet the next day. I do have tickets for the final though
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We're away at Bristol on Saturdayu, so I'll miss the game, but I'll catch the score once we're done, and probably watch the game on iPlayer if I can.
Tickets also book for Wembley
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Not heard of that but may seek it out, if not this weekend then on one of the many others on the wife's sabbaticals to her roots, I have all day Saturday to kill and leaving the wife at her sisters, no-one to kill it with, the day spreads out before me in one long empty "must do something fulfilling" space and yet I just know that I'll end up in[u The Ship at Low Newton,[/u to quote Michael Corleone, "Just when I think I'm out, they pull me back in again..."'"
Is that the brew pub in the square of white painted cottages where they also do excellent meals?
If so that's a great place to spend a Saturday afternoon, or any afternoon or evening.
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| I'm going.
Not looking forward to it.
Can't go to Wembley either.
Meh.
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| Not being able to shift a measly 8,000 tickets suggests either, or all, of these... 1) Your not passionate about your side as you make out 2) most of you are on benefits and simply can't afford the tickets and travel 3) you're not interested because you expect to lose.
And those half-hearted "fans" moaning that they aren't going because it's the correct side of the Pennines and that it's on tv will doubtless be first in the queue for tickets for Wembley should the 'Whinos' get there even though that is also on telly and it will take you 3 times longer to get there than it will to get to St Helens.
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| Quote ="WidnesJohn"Not being able to shift=#BF0000 a measly 8,000 tickets suggests either, or all, of these... 1) Your not passionate about your side as you make out 2) most of you are on benefits and simply can't afford the tickets and travel 3) you're not interested because you expect to lose.
And those half-hearted "fans" moaning that they aren't going because it's the correct side of the Pennines and that it's on tv will doubtless be first in the queue for tickets for Wembley should the 'Whinos' get there even though that is also on telly and it will take you 3 times longer to get there than it will to get to St Helens.'"
The average attendance for Widnes in 2013 was just under 6000 - if 8000 is measly what is 6000?
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| Tomorrow, I will be mainly driving between Maiori near Sorrento and Lago di Como. Not much chance of seeing the game BUT I hope all those that do attend enjoy it (supporters of both teams) and that the boys put in a decent shift. If we win, so much the better.
As another fat old git said earlier this week, my days of worrying about the result of a rugby match are long since gone.
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