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| Quote ="G1"
Was only a couple of years ago he re-arranged Peacock's face in a pre-season friendly.'"
IIRC it was a particularly cheap and snidey shot delivered from the blindside when Peacock wasnt expecting it . Mason may well be a bit tasty but I dont think you chose the best example here fella .
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| Quote ="Leeds Thirteen"IIRC it was a particularly cheap and snidey shot delivered from the blindside when Peacock wasnt expecting it . Mason may well be a bit tasty but I dont think you chose the best example here fella .'"
Peacock was held by Griffin at the time also very similar to Matautia's attack on Graham Mckay at HQ.
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| Has anyone got a link to the Andy Wilson article?
I've been on the Guardian web-site and his last blog was on the 22nd of April about Mcbanana!
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| Quote ="Clearwing"www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2010/may/04/mick-potter-st-helens-nrl'"
Cheers mate but that's the article i've read and i can't find anything that reports we are looking for a new coach along with Huddersfield etc.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You're having a giggle aren't you?
By all means express those opinions in private to your players and staff. If you've got a beef with the quality of officiating, take it through the appropriate channels at Red Hall
What you don't do is turn our sport into a virtual replica of football where managers/coaches spend all their time in the media wittering about any decision that goes against their team. You certainly don't declare open season on opposition players. It's like Arsene Wenger turning up at a press conference and saying that in the next game Arsenal are going to kick the opposition off the pitch.
Mind you, if he feels he has to tell the likes of Bungalow and Fa'alogo it's their job to look after the little guys it says as much about their respective intelligence as it does about Brown.
And G1 - any coach who thinks Bungalow is an "enforcer" clearly has some unused loft space of his own. He's about as terrifying as a Fimble.'"
That's a fair point AG and normally i'd agree but under Cummings the officials are not improving at all imo and their consistency within the SAME game is average at best so maybe a public outcry or two will cause the politicians at Red Hall to stand up and take note.
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Quote ="rhinoms"Cheers mate but that's the article i've read and i can't find anything that reports we are looking for a new coach along with Huddersfield etc.
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Here's the link
www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... urrayfield
He talks about coaches in the comment section below the article. He posts as roughyed.
I just checked back on the thread and here's what he's just written:
"my hunches on coaches would be fairleigh for saints, mcdermott for leeds, p anderson for huddersfield, morgan or kear for bradford, noble or kear for catalans, sharp and harris at crusaders. but they are just hunches."
Andy Wilson is a bit of a loon.
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Here's the link
www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/20 ... urrayfield
He talks about coaches in the comment section below the article. He posts as roughyed.
I just checked back on the thread and here's what he's just written:
"my hunches on coaches would be fairleigh for saints, mcdermott for leeds, p anderson for huddersfield, morgan or kear for bradford, noble or kear for catalans, sharp and harris at crusaders. but they are just hunches."
Andy Wilson is a bit of a loon.
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| Sounds like there could be a scramble for anyone who is available given so many super league teams will appear to be recruiting for next year
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| I'm taking over at Saints, you are my special group of people who deserve to know first.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"I'm taking over at Saints, you are my special group of people who deserve to know first.'"
...and you are just special.
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| i hope that bluey is still at the helm next season and with a new contract
forget the likes of bellamy coming over here next season,as it won't happen,he could take his pick of any aussie clubs should he wish!
you will obviously get the departing nrl coaches taking their only option available,so will be more than willing to move over here to re-build their reputation for a couple of seasons
wasn't nathan brown one of these afterall?
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"I'm taking over at Saints, you are my special group of people who deserve to know first.'"
if you can promise to produce as much 5hite on the field at saints next season as head coach,as you have posted on here,then i hope that you get the job!
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| I can't see Noble leaving Crusaders. He seems to be relishing the challenge there, and the players he has are responding very well to his basic gameplan. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Leeds.
If Bluey leaves then I'd look again to the NRL - don't want anyone in SL TBH - except Tony Smith.
As for Walters, he was a nonsensical appointment in the first place - zero first grade coaching experience and dumped from the Broncos because he was basically useless.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"I can't see Noble leaving Crusaders. He seems to be relishing the challenge there, and the players he has are responding very well to his basic gameplan. I wouldn't want him anywhere near Leeds.
If Bluey leaves then I'd look again to the NRL - don't want anyone in SL TBH - except Tony Smith.
As for Walters, he was a nonsensical appointment in the first place - zero first grade coaching experience and dumped from the Broncos because he was basically useless.'"
IF the article is true and assuming that any 'big name' NRL coach may be hard to tempt or have other options in the NRL,how is Dave Furner doing as a 1st team NRL coach. Could/would he be an option with old Rhinos links or is he too inexperienced for us?
Isn't Dunneman a number two somewhere as well? A furner/dunneman double act?? Has to be better than letting Cummings anywhere near the hot seat........doesn't it??
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| dunneman is a really good up and coming coach did well with northern pride in the queensland cup now with the knights as assistant furner will stay with canberra they have the makings of a good team
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| Spotted Dunemann in the Newcastle dressing room on MSK coverage last week.
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Isn't Dunneman a number two somewhere as well? A furner/dunneman double act?? Has to be better than letting Cummings anywhere near the hot seat........doesn't it??'"
I'm intrigued by these ideas of bringing in relatively recent ex-players as head coaches.
All the anecdotal evidence suggests that it's difficult to go from being "one of the lads" in a dressing room to being the boss.
Both Furner and Dunnemann have played with a large number of the current first team squad during the earlier part of their career. While both have had a break away from the club in the meantime, how difficult would it be for them to come back and the relationship to be so completely different, as it needs to be?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I'm intrigued by these ideas of bringing in relatively recent ex-players as head coaches.
All the anecdotal evidence suggests that it's difficult to go from being "one of the lads" in a dressing room to being the boss.
Both Furner and Dunnemann have played with a large number of the current first team squad during the earlier part of their career. While both have had a break away from the club in the meantime, how difficult would it be for them to come back and the relationship to be so completely different, as it needs to be?'"
Certainly a valid and interesting point.
Playing devils advocate though we had Daryl Powell (I don't want to start the argument up again about his merits as there was a lengthy thread about how much credit he should take for the start of our revival) and now have Cummings and Poaching who are giving out orders/plans etc to some degree to players they played with.
The longer it goes without an announcement on Bluey's future then the more I'm prepared to believe Andy Wilson's rumour has its merit
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"The longer it goes without an announcement on Bluey's future then the more I'm prepared to believe Andy Wilson's rumour has its merit'"
gary hetherington knows exactly how to get the best out of our players/coaches that are coming out of contract come this seasons end
im sure that the fact that bluey has not re-signed or has been offered a new contract as yet for next season,doesnt imply that he wont still get one!
if the rhinos happened to make this seasons challenge cup final,then i could envisage the club announcing that bluey had signed a new contract soon after the semi final win for example
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| I'd like to see either John Kear or Brian Noble at the helm next year. Both unlikely, but both very good coaches who could do a good job with us. Noble in particular-to turn Crusaders into the worst team to a side that'll probably make the playoffs shows he still has it.
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| Quote ="Tyke's/Rhinos No. 1 Fan"I'd have liked to have seen either John Kear or Brian Noble at the helm of the titanic'"
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| I hope McClennan stays but if he is to leave my choice of coaches in SL would be Nathan Brown or TS. As neither is available because Smith is staying at Wire and Brown said he will be at Huddersfield or back in Aus i would not be too surprised if McDermott was approached at Quins.
I watch next to nothing of the NRL and Bellamys record is impressive, but the way his team played the game in the WCC, especially in defence, was not something i would want to watch every week.
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| I would be surprised if McClennan departed unless Leeds continue at their current rate and finish around 6th or bel;ow, and fail to make the GF. If he went on his way, I think Leeds would definetely go overseas - maybe Ricky Stuart?
There will be absoluitely no way that Justin Morgan is going to Saints. People need to wise up and acknowledge this is 2010, not 2008. Morgan was overlooked once, and has done nothing to suggest he can take the step up with Saints. In fact his own job security may be thin on the ground should he not improve things at Hull KR. Likely successor? Hard to gage. Saints may look at Kearney and Meninga but I think both will be reluctant to come to these shores. McManus has a track record of going for those well grounded in coachiong so talk of a Sculthorpe, KC, Martyn etc appointment are pie in the sky.
Bradford is more interesting. Would they eat humble pie and appoint Ian Millward? Woudl they go after John Kear?
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"Certainly a valid and interesting point.
The longer it goes without an announcement on Bluey's future then the more I'm prepared to believe Andy Wilson's rumour has its merit'"
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