At last you admit it.

Like I said, comeback when you have something to say about rugby and the thread.. but yes, good one!

So next season if Wigan to make a final, they are in decline?

Potentially yes. But Wigan are in a very different position to Leeds, the core of our team are very young and winning when young. Leeds starts are ageing, results are showing they're not the team they once were.

Okay Last Son of Wigan, here's a logic bomb for you to try and defuse.

You say that Leeds are a team in decline because they failed to make either final this year, however as Leeds are the only side who could consider that to be a decline does that make it an actual decline? Or is it a blip as the last time such an event occurred. In 2006.

Five Grand Final wins and three back to back Wembley appearances later we've had a season where, at certain times, things didn't go right. That being said, Leeds - the team in decline let's not forget - were hardly blown away by the ascending Warriors despite having several players on the park injured.

Next season Leeds' squad will be stronger, not only with the addition of Briscoe, but with a fit Stevie Ward ready to slot back in and the likelihood that Maguire won't miss half the season. Even if we do no more business that would make 2014's squad notably better. Add in to that that we have youngsters like Foster, Singleton and Sutcliffe all with valuable big game experience that they didn't have last year and the fact that a repeat of the atrocious injury list we've suffered is highly unlikely and all of a sudden it starts to look like the Rhinos might actually be very strong next year.

Contrast that with a Wigan side whose already weakened back line has lost two more of it's best attacking assets and who's move(s?) have, for the most part at least, been figured out by the better sides, and which side would you say was really likely to be at the start of a decline?

Did we have, by standards that only the Rhinos can actually stand by, a poor season? Yes, but when you win the league 5 years out of 6 it's inevitable that at some point another team will have their day. Are we going to be better next season? Almost certainly. Are Wigan?

Decline? Time will tell, I'd say no, we're a team in transition, and the future's looking rosey - we're a side no-one wants to leave and hot talent wants to join. Tell me again how that's working out over in Wigan?

The last time Leeds didn't make the GF or the CC final was in 2006.
The next six years after that really were absolutely terrible, so, yes, you must be right, Leeds must be in decline.

I am really worried about a Wigan dynasty coming our way built on the foundations of that wizard like half back duo Green and Smith,power house centres Thornley and Goulding,a fearsome pack which will be led by that NRL superstar Eddie Pettybourne.

No,really...

Look I am talking about wigan fans per se apart from the few decent ones who come on here.Now you have successfully derailed a thread about a topic entirely different that is trolling and if anyone did half of what you have said on Prinz Albrecht Strasse I.E the Wigan board it would be summary ban.Now the last two years Leeds have been accused of playing crap through the season apart from the end and picking up the prize after finishing 5th.Well I am saying Wigan played ok at the start but played crap the other half including your cup run and final win and finished a poor 4th.I don't know who is going to win on Saturday and I've nothing against decent Wigan fans, but I would have thought you would have waited to see if you won first then all the rest of your fellow walkers will be here with you.
Its been said more than twice over the last 9 years "never write off a rhino".Leeds are in transition and none of expect he kind of success we have had in the last 9 years,but I do know this if Wigan are the team of he immediate future and they certainly don't look it,but if they are then god help the sport.They are nowhere near the same street a Saints, Bulls or Leeds of that era and don't forget Leeds are still around.Without a doubt you have come on here to troll because you can get away with it the mods here as you know are tollerant.This is a thread about signing a player called Briscoe and its deliberately derailed by you Troll

Last son of Wigeeeeeeeeen is in Dick Line if you ask me"......go Wire"

In regards to this Wigan troll that is clearly winding everyone up,and quite successfully too i may add,lets have a game of through the key hole and look at the clues to see who it could poosibly be.

1:They have a demeanor that makes out that they dislike the Rhinos,Despite the fact that we all know that he is a dyed in the wool Loiner
2:This trolls first post is one that clearly has the sole intention of winding people up
3:This troll can swiftly change the point of topic to suit his agenda and quite successfully too
4:Why would a proper Wigan fan expand so much time and effort on this forum in the week leading up to a Grand Final?

Who could this Troll be?

Ooh. Is it Lloyd Grossman?

stupid. its obviously keith lemon. he's from leeds too

does he post the Wiggin board?has he posted on here much?

does he post the Wiggin board?has he posted on here much?

Jeff. (william eve, ap et al).

Double standards.

You just watch if wigan win tomorrow. They'll be well and truly jizzing themselves. [i''number 20, the greatest sporting institution in the world back where we belong, this time we'll do 9 on the trot, s s, bow down to us, anyone who doesn't realise our greatness shall be sentenced to death''.[/i

While leeds recent victories were hollow and made a mockery of the competion, they weren't [ireal[/i champions. Wigans victory from 4th tomorrow (after royaly ing on the regular season in the final 3rd) will be a beacon of human sporting achievment, ultimate champions never ever seen before.

Just watch.

One thing about wigan is that they are bad losers, but even worse winners. No one comes close. Not even sundry whino fans can get close to that level of smugness and lack of humility. At least with saints fans you can ahve a laugh and they don't take themselves too seriously. Wigan take themselves VERY seriously. In the words of ron burgundy ''we're kind of a big deal round here''.

Just out of interest, how many Wire trolls have we had over here of late?

Quote ="FlexWheeler"Double standards. You just watch if wigan win tomorrow. They'll be well and truly jizzing themselves. [i''number 20, the greatest sporting institution in the world back where we belong, this time we'll do 9 on the trot, s s, bow down to us, anyone who doesn't realise our greatness shall be sentenced to death''.[/i While leeds recent victories were hollow and made a mockery of the competion, they weren't [ireal[/i champions. Wigans victory from 4th tomorrow (after royaly ing on the regular season in the final 3rd) will be a beacon of human sporting achievment, ultimate champions never ever seen before. Just watch. One thing about wigan is that they are bad losers, but even worse winners. No one comes close. Not even sundry whino fans can get close to that level of smugness and lack of humility. At least with saints fans you can ahve a laugh and they don't take themselves too seriously. Wigan take themselves VERY seriously. In the words of ron burgundy ''we're kind of a big deal round here''.'" Absolute bollo If we win we win, if we lose we lose we lose, end of. I've watched the game for a long time. The funny thing is that if you have a look at this the MAJORITY of Wigan fans would take a defeat tomorrow for an England World Cup win. How does that fit with your argument. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=559540&tsmp=1380919668

Quote ="FlexWheeler"Double standards. You just watch if wigan win tomorrow. They'll be well and truly jizzing themselves. [i''number 20, the greatest sporting institution in the world back where we belong, this time we'll do 9 on the trot, s s, bow down to us, anyone who doesn't realise our greatness shall be sentenced to death''.[/i While leeds recent victories were hollow and made a mockery of the competion, they weren't [ireal[/i champions. Wigans victory from 4th tomorrow (after royaly ing on the regular season in the final 3rd) will be a beacon of human sporting achievment, ultimate champions never ever seen before. Just watch. One thing about wigan is that they are bad losers, but even worse winners. No one comes close. Not even sundry whino fans can get close to that level of smugness and lack of humility. At least with saints fans you can ahve a laugh and they don't take themselves too seriously. Wigan take themselves VERY seriously. In the words of ron burgundy ''we're kind of a big deal round here''.'" Absolute bollo If we win we win, if we lose we lose we lose, end of. I've watched the game for a long time. The funny thing is that if you have a look at this the MAJORITY of Wigan fans would take a defeat tomorrow for an England World Cup win. How does that fit with your argument. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=559540&tsmp=1380919668

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute bollo If we win we win, if we lose we lose we lose, end of. I've watched the game for a long time. The funny thing is that if you have a look at this the MAJORITY of Wigan fans would take a defeat tomorrow for an England World Cup win. How does that fit with your argument. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=559540&tsmp=1380919668'" You're a good wigan fan, the exception. I wasn't really arguing wigan's preference of club and country but it's nice to see people favouring international success over club success.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute bollo If we win we win, if we lose we lose we lose, end of. I've watched the game for a long time. The funny thing is that if you have a look at this the MAJORITY of Wigan fans would take a defeat tomorrow for an England World Cup win. How does that fit with your argument. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=559540&tsmp=1380919668'" You're a good wigan fan, the exception. I wasn't really arguing wigan's preference of club and country but it's nice to see people favouring international success over club success.

Ha ha, my thoughts entirely! But there must be a point five, he's obsessive about fifth



In my opinion all teams are in decline from 5 years ago, but at least we've won the title 5 times recently. Thinking positively however, I reckon Leeds will be the only team in SL to sign an English international this close season, and what an excellent no 5 he is

He's also obsessed with leeds fans being obsessed with wigan

The double.

That is all.

A quote from 'Last Son Of Wigan' posted September 6th 2013.



Yes people, we should listen to what this man says, 6 and 7 for Wigan have been nullified so much that they now hold between them the Lance Todd and Harry Sunderland award.

Mr Wane doesn't know what he's doing, but it's ok, Last Son Of Wigan has a 20 page essay ready for him

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute bollo If we win we win, if we lose we lose we lose, end of. I've watched the game for a long time. The funny thing is that if you have a look at this the MAJORITY of Wigan fans would take a defeat tomorrow for an England World Cup win. How does that fit with your argument. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=559540&tsmp=1380919668'" Sorry but I used to like your insight into the U19s etc but you lost all credibility with the post about the Wigan youngster being great until he signed for someone else then retrospectively became rubbish overnight. None of this relates to the thread title BTW!

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Absolute bollo If we win we win, if we lose we lose we lose, end of. I've watched the game for a long time. The funny thing is that if you have a look at this the MAJORITY of Wigan fans would take a defeat tomorrow for an England World Cup win. How does that fit with your argument. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=559540&tsmp=1380919668'" Sorry but I used to like your insight into the U19s etc but you lost all credibility with the post about the Wigan youngster being great until he signed for someone else then retrospectively became rubbish overnight. None of this relates to the thread title BTW!

But like I said if your're Last son of Wigan,what happened to all the others?