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| Quote ="The Eagle"I think we do have quite a few filler forwards. The problem is that forwards pick up injuries and need rests. Its always useful to have a big squad as it allows rotation and promotes competition.
I think the problem most people have with Kirke isn't his ability, its the fact that he was for the most of last season a first 17 member. This is different this season, but it seems like its fashionable to bash him, even when he's not playing'"
If he is deserving his place (kirke) throught his performances in training then fair enough. Like the above Post I don't really have a problem with him being in the squad. He does frustrate slightly in that he has all the physical attributes. And I wasn't massively impressed with him playing every week, but he is useful to have in the squad
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| Quote ="Sheldon"It's not 1996.'"
F**k! Did I miss another decade?
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I think the problem most people have with Kirke isn't his ability, its the fact that he was for the most of last season a first 17 member. This is different this season, but it seems like its fashionable to bash him, even when he's not playing'"
This is probably correct. However, what a shame from the coach that even tonight he drops an inform and trying to impress Pitts for the lum of wood that is Kirke.
Filling in when injuries arise or to rest someone playing lots of game time is one thing, but getting preference to a better prospect is poor form.
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| So we're signing Ellis, Williams and Cherry-evans? sounds good to me
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| Quote ="Gotcha"This is probably correct. However, what a shame from the coach that even tonight he drops an inform and trying to impress Pitts for the lum of wood that is Kirke.
Filling in when injuries arise or to rest someone playing lots of game time is one thing, but getting preference to a better prospect is poor form.'"
It's arguable Pitts has been dropped for Clarkson but whether it's Clarkson or Kirke it's a baffling decision. Pitts has been very energetic and shown a high work rate in the last couple of games.
Not something Kirke ever brings to the table and something, offensively at least, that has been disappointing with Clarkson.
However, to decide not to go to a game on the basis of Pitts being dropped/rested is an OTT reaction fella. Not that I had any intention of ever going to the game mind.
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| Quote ="G1"Quote ="Gotcha"This is probably correct. However, what a shame from the coach that even tonight he drops an inform and trying to impress Pitts for the lum of wood that is Kirke.
Filling in when injuries arise or to rest someone playing lots of game time is one thing, but getting preference to a better prospect is poor form.'"
It's arguable Pitts has been dropped for Clarkson but whether it's Clarkson or Kirke it's a baffling decision. Pitts has been very energetic and shown a high work rate in the last couple of games.
Not something Kirke ever brings to the table and something, offensively at least, that has been disappointing with Clarkson.
However, to decide not to go to a game on the basis of Pitts being dropped/rested is an OTT reaction fella. Not that I had any intention of ever going to the game mind.'"
I'd be interested to see how he goes in the second row (his main position), and I assume with a different role and more game time he may come out ok.
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| Quote ="The Eagle"I'd be interested to see how he goes in the second row (his main position), and I assume with a different role and more game time he may come out ok.'"
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| Quote ="nantwichexile"Quote ="The Eagle"I'd be interested to see how he goes in the second row (his main position), and I assume with a different role and more game time he may come out ok.'"
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I preferred the term MUMOOWMer
seriously though. its not that I'm a big fan of his. its that I'm a logical guy so try to understand what it is he must bring to the team to be a mainstay for 6 years and counting.
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| I thought he went ok last night, put in some strong runs, made effective tackles, got more game time, didn't let anybody down.
I think that Clarkson was a straight swap for Pitts on a like for like basis.
Squad rotation if you like.
The performance of both Kirke & Moore, when he came on, meant that for once BM did not have to bring back Peacock to shore up both our attack & defence.
This has to be good for next week against Saints unless of course I missed an injury to Peacock.
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| Agent David Howes says it's between Leeds and Hull for Ellis
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Translation: "I want him to go to Hull and he wants to go to Leeds".
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Translation: "I want him to go to Hull and he wants to go to Leeds".'"
If warrington dont want him then he can go to leeds or hull
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| Quote ="spanker"If warrington dont want him then he can go to leeds or hull[/quo
Both far bigger clubs than Warrington you fool
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| Quote ="spanker"If warrington dont want him then he can go to leeds or hull'"
That's right. If a club dosen't want him then he won't go there.
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| [urlhttp://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Hull-FC-talks-Gareth-Ellis-going-says-Shaun-McRae/story-15518755-detail/story.html[/url
Gareth if you're reading this, don't go to Hull.........Come back HOME to Leeds
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Gareth if you're reading this, don't go to Hull.........Come back HOME to Leeds
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“There has now been dialogue between myself and Gareth’s agent'
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No one hear's till its signed sealed and delivered!thats how Gary does business.
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| You mean like this rumour posted a couple of pages ago:
Quote ="rhinoms"I hope he does and several have informed me it's done and dusted all who have been reliable in the past so the sooner it's announced the better imo.'"
I'll believe it only after he pulls on the shirt again and not before but I didn't read anything in that article that changes the prospects much one way or the other.
I assume it must have been a slow news day on Humberside.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'll believe it only after he pulls on the shirt again and not before but I didn't read anything in that article that changes the prospects much one way or the other.
I assume it must have been a slow news day on Humberside.'"
That's my take too.
[i"we know Gareth has not dismissed the idea of coming to Hull"[/i is hardly the most positive phrase in the world is it.
Even if he signs for someone else Hull clearly want their supporters to believe they made every effort to sign a world class player when he was available.
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| Quote ="tvoc"[uYou mean like this rumour posted a couple of pages ago[/u:
I'll believe it only after he pulls on the shirt again and not before but I didn't read anything in that article that changes the prospects much one way or the other.
I assume it must have been a slow news day on Humberside.'"
That's exactly what i meant so why re-post what i put?
You do seem intent on trying to discredit people posting what rumours they've heard yet you know full well there's been more right than wrong for e.g Donald ,Smith ,Hauraki ,Sinfield etc etc.
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| I liked this bit...[i putting together a thorough dossier to be sent to Ellis in Australia to showcase exactly what Hull have to offer.[/i
Shouldn't take too long.
1.....The Deep
2....The Humber bridge.
3.... M62 out
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