Would you take Ellis back at any cost then? Including (hypothetically) breaking the existing salary structure?

I wouldn't.

I do hope he can be brought back at the right price, but if somebody else offers more than he's worth to Leeds (and he may be worth more to sides less well equipped in the back row) then I wouldn't advocate Leeds matching them.

Missing out on Morley was hardly a hammer blow to the club in the end was it?

Missing out on Harris was (alongside the arrivals of Furner, Ellis, Peacock, Webb and Lauititi) one of the best things to happen to the club in the transfer market in years.

Warrington Gambled and it came off.....Morley is from over the Hill anyway.

I think Ellis, a Yorkshire Lad, will want to come back to the Premier Club in Yorkshire......The Leeds Rhinos <I thank you>

Spot on El D.
Saying that though GH won't break the structure for anyone and GE knows full well what our set up is and iirc he turned more ££££ down from Wakey and the Dulls to join us in the 1st place.
Also where Howes is gazumped this time GE has already stated his ambition for trophies and challenging for medals over the extra ££££££.

Ellis will come back to us I'm sure of it, and so is his Dad, in which I'm inclined to believe.

I hope he does and several have informed me it's done and dusted all who have been reliable in the past so the sooner it's announced the better imo.

How's Webb getting on these days over at Widnes?

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From reading the last couple of pages, even if Ellis doesn't sign it sounds pretty encouraging that his dad might.

If only we could convince Ryan Bailey and Danny Ward's dads to sign. No-one would mess with our pack.

Something only Webb and Widnes can answer but i know others as do you that have been 99% spot on.

99% spot on?

I presume the missing 1% being the important bit where they actually put pen to paper.

Thanks for confirming the information has come from the same sources. I hope this time they're right.

Where is Walter Mitty when yuo need him?

I would still say that Ellis would be better than any one of our second row options. However, I am wary of signing him up on a long deal on lots of money. Obviously GH is a smart man and should get the best out of any deal that may have been made, though I would be surprised if it was more than a 3 year deal

About as well as Sir Kevin is a Warrington, I suspect.

Ah well. Nobody's right all the time.

At least Lesley Vainikolo as a hit in each of the 3 seasons in which he signed for Leeds.

Wouldn't swap him for JJB to be fair. But he's better than most 2nd row options anywhere in Super League.

Nor would I. Ellis is still the better player in my view though

Nor would I .... But I WOULD swap Kirke for a packet of custard creams.



Indifferent about Ellis ... Way past his peak when / if he joins Leeds.

When/if we sign Ellis will GH announce him as Buderus' replacement?

Bradley Clyde's replacement

Ellis replacing Ellis from when he left?


Not really a position that we are weak in and hopefully hauraki or kirke may move on? Probably hauraki. However he still in a quality player swapping Ellis with hauraki would only improve the team. Cannot see sinfield moving back to lock if we sign Ellis though.

Agreed. But i did say that in my post.

Bradley Clyde's replacement what? Hip?

Unlike some on here who have apparently unrestricted access to bank accounts and personnel files from the club, I can only speculate. But I'd be willing to bet Ellis would be considerably more expensive than Hauraki.

Again I wouldn't know but I guess your right, I was meaning more in terms of the amount of players we have rather than the money issue

TBH if Ellis comes back, we could offload Kirke and Hauraki for a start. We'd still have JJB, Ablett, Delaney, Clarkson and Pitts for the back row on top of Ellis, never mind any younger players knocking on the door. TBH even if we don't sign Ellis I'm still of a view that we have too many 'filler' forwards around.

I think we do have quite a few filler forwards. The problem is that forwards pick up injuries and need rests. Its always useful to have a big squad as it allows rotation and promotes competition.

I think the problem most people have with Kirke isn't his ability, its the fact that he was for the most of last season a first 17 member. This is different this season, but it seems like its fashionable to bash him, even when he's not playing