Sal?

According to the paper here, Segeyaro may debut for the Sharks this weekend.

He is not in the same league as Segeyaro - honest hard working player who looks better than he is because he is new, when the opposition work him out then let's see how good he is. Same applied to Cuthbertson he looked great year 1 now he just looks very average

Parcell has been here for less time than segeyaro and has looked the better of the 2. I think some people cant evaluate or compare a players worth as they just cant look past the name.

Love the irony of the calls over hetheringtons ego. Long protracted battles just to try prove youre right, sound familiar?

He's on fire this season,

It's almost like you make this up as you go along

He must've really worked hard whilst not training with Cronulla for the past few months then.

Jayden Brailey had his worst game in the surprise loss to St George at the weekend, no reason to think Segeyaro couldn't add something to the 17 - especially from the bench.

Whilst I am one of the people who thinks we should have just cut ties with Segeyaro and let him go straight away, I don't see how anyone can be anything other than pleased with Parcell.
His style was always going to work well in Super League - he's got good distribution, a very dangerous and quick scooter, seems to take the right options and is very sound defensively.
So whilst I might disagree with the stance taken on Segeyaro (and question the true reason why GH was 'playing hardball') GH should be praised for sourcing such an adequate replacement. I'd have Parcell down as one of, if not possibly the best 9 in SL.

I think this is premature when there are the likes of Roby, Clarke, Houghton & even Aiton in the frame for the best no 9.
In time maybe, he's made a promising start & is developing an excellent understanding with Cuthbertson but let's not get carried away just yet. One thing is for sure though he's better than Falloon.

That's why I said possibly - on current form I don't see any other 9 playing much better, so if he holds his form and continues to develop, then he's definitely there or thereabouts.

Parcell is better than Segeyaro now?

Obviously not but Chicko hasn't played or trained with anyone in 6 months (so he and Cronulla claim) meaning he's going to struggle for a while.
Based on current form then... Parcell is much better.



On another similar note, is Cuthbertson really bang average now?

Still early days but considering we looked up S**t creek without a paddle at Christmas regards the hooking role Parcell is about as good as we could have ever hoped for with such little time available and players for that matter.

Cuthbertson looks very average this year??? Utter nonsense as per usual.

Cuthbertson has been one of the best props in the league so far. Gained massive metres every game, made plenty of tackles and he's rediscovered how to offload. Everything we do at the moment is coming off the back of his and Parcell's work.

It all about opinions - you have yours which I think is nonsense and I have mine which you think is nonsense

He has looked Ok in the last two games against pretty abysmal opposition other than that he still looks a pale shadow of the player he was in 2015 - in my opinion.

Let's see how the next few games pan out when Leeds start to play sides that most have predicted to end up in the top 8

Fwiw imo Cuthberson Parcell Keinhorst & Golding have been our best players thus far by plenty.

Totally agree with those in bold

As for Golding, his defence (previously thought to be his weakness) has been a revelation - albeit not to Hardaker's standard.
But wrt him as an attacking threat, I can hardly think of one instance this season where he has looked threatening to the opposition's line. And his bringing the ball back from kicks is (IMO) nothing short of woeful - lateral running until thumped, in the process losing many potential metres for the team; not diving to the floor when near our own goal line so that he doesn't get pushed back in-goal (& don't tell me that would be a voluntary tackle - there hasn't been one of those in many years).

Please don't assume that I have an anti-Golding stance - I desperately want the lad to succeed, but there are many things to improve in his game & he needs to show that he is learning. As I said his goal-line defence has been awesome, so I hope he can fix up the other things (his goal kicking was rather good the other night also!)

his attack as not really fired so far this season, but he often busts the takle taking the ball back, and often looks threatening, but to say his attack and ball returning has been woefull is simply not true.

I would say that his attack in the opponent's 20 is pretty woeful, he doesn't look likely to make space for our centres and wingers or burst through the line. Then again this could be down to our structure as Zak only seemed capable of barging over until he went to Cas. His kick return is quite good but he could do with learning from Briscoe on taking the ball up from the PTB as he often gets held up and pushed back.

Overall though he has been very good for us and he's definitely exceeded most people's expectations of him.

I can't remember him busting a single tackle on kick returns. He also *never* joins the line on attack (might be a coaching issue because Hardaker rarely did either) and doesn't back play up in the middle of the field. At a time where fullbacks are meant to be a third pivot, he's pretty much the opposite. I don't think it's because he doesn't have attacking talent, but he really needs to get himself involved, can't afford to have nothing from attack in the 1 shirt.

He is also very young and 6 games in to first season as first choice and having played behind unsettled halfbacks.

Agree with Son of Headingley. Defensively he has been great but he offers nothing in attack. I feel like he taps the ball dead / gets tackled in the in goal area too often too but could just be me: I feel like he should make more of an effort to bring the ball out of the dead ball area. However, for the time being, I am willing to continue with him at full back and hope his attack improves with more experience. He seems to work very hard and appears quite skillfull so hopefully he shall improve.

Given how much more creative Hardaker looks after only a few months in a different set up, and that Golding was one of the best attacking players in his academy days, I wouldn't assume that lack of ability is the real issue.