The thead that keeps on (and on and on and on) giving

Ryan Bailey will be jealous.

To sum things up then;

- Some people think the club should just cut ties and let Segeyaro move on (and maybe take action against him personally)
- Some people think the club should hold him to task and let him rot if need be
- Some believe Segeyaro's tale of homesickness, some don't
- Everyone agrees Segeyaro and his manager have acted like tools throughout this whole episode

Hopefully there's a resolution soon - it's doing nobody any favours the longer it drags on. Segeyaro isn't earning and Leeds are starting to look a little bitter and uncompasionate (which could well affect future recruitment from Oz). Time to get it sorted one way or another.

Whilst it did come from the club, there is no proof that they were lying at that time. There was a meeting, the outcome of which no one on this board knows. We do understand that GH advised JS and his agent of the consequences of not returning. What JS and his agent said no one knows, but he's had a history of making statements that suit him at the time, and some of his agents statements, that I have seen posted on here are off the wall.

Isn't earning??? Come on let's not pretend Cromulla won't be looking after the guy financially with him training with them.

So when you posted GH's quotation earlier, which I assume you obtained from an official source linked to the club, why did you omit any mention of the following... [i"Leeds Rhinos Chief Executive Gary Hetherington has confirmed that James Segeyaro will remain at the club [uand is looking forward to next season with the Rhino[/u"[/i... and furthermore, why did you insist that Gotcha had to provide an actual quote from GH?


Constructing your straw men and knocking them down does not equate to anyone else making stuff up... apart from you of course. As for throwing insults around, did Donald Trump tell you to say that?




Which still begs the question as to why you demanded from Gotcha an actual quotation from the CEO?


[uTranslation[/u: The source and veracity of evidence which I demand from others (in this case Gotcha) does not apply to me.


No difference at all to anyone who is comfortable dealing with someone skilled in fabrication, smoke & mirrors and the darkest of arts. Unfortunately, on this occasion, the CEO has not covered himself in any glory. I expect none of this will have gone unnoticed down under and may play a significant role in future NRL players turning Leeds down, and who could blame them?


An apology to Gotcha seems in order.

Whenever you are ready?

I very much doubt that will be the case - the NRL would come down on them for that.

Plus the Sharks have just been stung by Barba - the NRL told the Sharks they could start paying him, but still didn't register his contract, so when Barba left for France because the NRL were dilly dallying too long, the Sharks had paid him 2 months wages already for no return, money straight down the pot - I doubt they'd make the same mistake again by paying an unregistered player, who's future is far from guaranteed at the club.

He came out two days after that Hetherington PR saying he doesn't not know where it had come from, as he made it clear in the meeting with Hetherington that he would not be returning.

I agree with you that we will never know the full truth. But what is clear is that what Hetherington said at the time about the meeting, he has changed to a degree this week. That puts him to task on it. Doesn't make his position any less worthy or right, but it does highlight his often spoken untruths.

Do you really think.that stops clubs getting up to stuff with regards player payments?



Not saying he'll be getting the kind of money he would if he properly signs but they'll be making sure he won't be buying Bargain Bob's Bargain Beans at the supermarket.

Have you got an actual quote from the Cronulla club to back up all this piffle of yours?



Thought not.

No but I've not claimed they've said anything so what a cr@p attempt at trolling even by your lowering standards.

If you think an NRL club in its right mind would try to beat the cap then you haven't seen what's happening here with the Eels. At least one and maybe more individuals are going to be tried for fraud on top of the huge penalties the club faces, and the fact those involved have lost their jobs and are almost unemployable (including Daniel Anderson). The idea that any Sharks officials would try to get away with under the table payments to Segeyaro when there's no guarantee he'll ever play for them is crazy.

Yet despite all the warning signs after what happened at Melbourne & the Doggies the Eels still tried it!!.
The Sharks may or may not try to cheat the SC wrt Segeyaro but to say NO NRL club would try & cheat the cap is imo way ott.

As Rhino Mark pointed out, saying no club will try it because of previous is silly. I mean we're talking about a club that went and told a contracted player (Segeyaro) to go get himself a release from his contract .....not exactly doing things by the book are they and with an agent who has had a few dodgy episodes in his past including betting on NRL games then I wouldn't say looking after him was past them. The lad won't be scraping by on peanuts and tap water I'm sure.

More unsubstantiated piffle from one of the usual suspects who is so demanding of anyone else in providing incontrovertible evidence for their assertions

That has to be the most ironic post ever to grace Southstander.

Nice.

I happily admit it's just an opinion, I'm not passing it off as fact like some others do like yourself.

I would hope that this is resolved given the Sharks hierarchy are over in the uk for the WCC then we can all move on.

To be fair, there is a subtle difference in the stance the Sharks have publicly maintained and what you're saying - they were interested in him before the deadline and spoke to his manager but were not in a position to offer a deal - after the Barba situation, they were approached by his manager to see if they were still interested - they said all along that if Segeyaro were to be released by Leeds, they'd be interested. That's slightly different to 'telling a contracted player to get a release'.

Quote in the Sun (I know!!!) on 28th November:





Make your own mind up based on this partial information

Ignoring the rest of your embarrassing post, what exactly am I apologising for William?
Asking 2 of the biggest liars on this forum to provide a link to a quote they attributed to the club?

If you don't want people questioning you so much I recommend reading this book....

Ooh look, Gotcha's internet is suddenly working again.



Yes it came from the club but as I also pointed out and as you've accepted.... it could also be true.
It also matters not one jot in relation to Segeyaro breaking his contract.

Anyone know if Segeyaro is still training with Cronulla?

I wouldn't have thought so, they are over here at the moment and he will get homesick

My internet is always working, I am a busy man though who has to look intermittently. My life not said enough to be here permanently.

Thank you, so as I said on page 100, without the need for you to cry foul all the time calling people liars, when you are the only one here trying to make something up.

I never said it did matter about Segeyaro breaking his contract, and I even said it made no difference to whether Hetherington was right or wrong in what he was doing. I just stated the obvious that what he says now about the meeting, isn't the same as he allowed to be reported in November.