Salford looking to make one more signing

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Any speculation?

Sinfield

Sam Burgess?

Lee Smith.

Thought it was SBW he was always spouting on about.

Anyway, whilst I agree that the salary cap should be amended to allow such a thing. It shouldn't happen until everyone is of the same understanding, rather than one club having someone lined up ahead of the rest.

I was thinking Kevin Pietersen

No Dr Koukhash. No you can't.

If there were to be exemptions, they would have to be available to any club who can afford it. Which probably covers Wigan, Wire, Leeds and probably Saints and Hull as well.

There would have to be limits and strict criteria. Even then I'm not convinced it would be fair.

Can one club suddenly do it a few days before their first competitive match (and after the first competitive match)? Obviously not. That would be utterly ridiculous. If there were to be exemptions, I'd prefer it to be for home-grown players, which in turn would free up some cash for imports, but only for clubs who could demonstrate a commitment to bringing through their own players.

I'm all for characters, and he's certainly that, but I am beginning to wish he'd just STFU now. The salary cap was in place when he bought in. Deal with it. Lobby behind the scenes for change, demonstrating how that change is to be financed. Build a rugby business that can actually sustain that level of spending (Salford must have the same revenue as my local One Stop shop, only with fewer regular customers). Just stop gobbing off about what a Billy Big B*ll**ks you are in the papers every 2 days.

To date the mighty Red Devils Empire has demonstrated that his approach delivers precisely nowt on the pitch. That may (hopefully) change. Then I might have more sympathy. He has yet to prove that he can even buy success at Salford.

Sure Marwan we'll move the goal posts just for you.

Jog on.

For all the bluster, I was reading the other day that Koukash has put in almost £1m* of his own money thus far. Now, while that's more than I'd be prepared to spend on Salford, it doesn't seem an astronomical sum considering all the hot air he's been generating and considering some of the estimates of his personal wealth that are being floated. My understanding is that ST sales are somewhere in the low 1000s so it strikes me that were it his intention to really go to town investment-wise, he might have done better to spend some of it on promoting the club in a more structured way as opposed to merely titillating journalists.

* of course, that figure may be wildly inaccurate and I can't remember where I read it. One of Andy Wilson's pieces perhaps?

Having re-read the article, it seems to suggest that the SL (RFL) would be open to exemptions from 2015 for marquee signings. Could this be the beginning of the demise of the salary cap

Who as I'm sure you know has gone back to RU with Newcastle Falcons.

I do. Had he not waited til the start of the RL season I'd have seen him play for them a few times this winter.

Completely agree EL.D.

IIRC it's the way the salary cap operates in both the A-League in Australia and the MLS soccer league in the US.

A fixed amount for the squad, but with an exemption from that fixed amount for one "marquee" player per team.

Not against it in principle, but it needs the buy in of all clubs before the start of a season. Occasionally, a little bit of stopping and thinking before spouting off would do Dr Koukash some good.

The marquee player exemption has now been voted down by the majority of SL clubs. www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... rquee-rule Somewhat surprised to see Leeds were backing this initiative, perhaps it works for them politically in a vote they anticipated/knew would be lost. Bradford were not represented at the meeting - the shape of things to come perhaps?

The marquee player exemption has now been voted down by the majority of SL clubs. www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... rquee-rule Somewhat surprised to see Leeds were backing this initiative, perhaps it works for them politically in a vote they anticipated/knew would be lost. Bradford were not represented at the meeting - the shape of things to come perhaps?

I suppose we voted "for" because it would allow us to keep at least one of our back line away from the NRL.

I'd rather see exemptions or discounts for products of your own academy, subject to them making enough SL appearances. That would free cash up for big signings for those teams who had invested in their home-grown talent.

I long for a day when we can have a league full of clubs that can actually afford to pay up to the cap that we have. I think that is the first step before we start implimenting ideas like this.

Quote ="El Diablo"I'd rather see exemptions or discounts for products of your own academy, subject to them making enough SL appearances. That would free cash up for big signings for those teams who had invested in their home-grown talent.'" You mean like the ones that were with the structural changes proposal? 5.3.11 In Tier 1, the current Elite Squad Representative Dispensation Allowance is removed, to be replaced by regulation that limits the Salary Cap Value of a Club Trained Player at a nominal value of £100k (i.e. for any Club Trained Player with a Salary Cap Value of over £100k, his Salary Cap Value will be assessed at £100k only with any additional wage not included in his salary cap value). This would reward clubs for producing elite talent and give them an opportunity to retain this talent in the face of competition from other sports and competitions. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Policy%2 ... 202013.pdf

Quote ="El Diablo"I'd rather see exemptions or discounts for products of your own academy, subject to them making enough SL appearances. That would free cash up for big signings for those teams who had invested in their home-grown talent.'" You mean like the ones that were with the structural changes proposal? 5.3.11 In Tier 1, the current Elite Squad Representative Dispensation Allowance is removed, to be replaced by regulation that limits the Salary Cap Value of a Club Trained Player at a nominal value of £100k (i.e. for any Club Trained Player with a Salary Cap Value of over £100k, his Salary Cap Value will be assessed at £100k only with any additional wage not included in his salary cap value). This would reward clubs for producing elite talent and give them an opportunity to retain this talent in the face of competition from other sports and competitions. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Policy%2 ... 202013.pdf

Why can't we just increase the salary cap ?
If teams are stupid enough to go over budget and into debt then it's their own fault.
We need to stop players going to the NRL and rugby union, give them the money their deserve !!

It also opens up the possibility that any one of the rest of the backline could be snapped up by the NRL or by another SL club as a marquee player, because all of a sudden they don't feel valued by Leeds.

Personally, I don't like this. I'm all for a re-think of the salary cap, it's about time. But the RFL and the rest of the clubs shouldn't be bullied Marwan Koukash looking after his own interests. He wants all clubs to have a Golden Ticket but if they can't use it another club can buy it? Right, so basically Marwan, you mean YOU can buy it.

Credit to the good doctor he is getting plenty of publicity for Salford , most of it seems to be quite good, and beneficial to super league.
Also anthing is better than the news coming out of odsal.

Having watched Salford on sky tonight, I suspect they will need several salary cap exemptions.

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"You mean like the ones that were with the structural changes proposal? 5.3.11 In Tier 1, the current Elite Squad Representative Dispensation Allowance is removed, to be replaced by regulation that limits the Salary Cap Value of a Club Trained Player at a nominal value of £100k (i.e. for any Club Trained Player with a Salary Cap Value of over £100k, his Salary Cap Value will be assessed at £100k only with any additional wage not included in his salary cap value). This would reward clubs for producing elite talent and give them an opportunity to retain this talent in the face of competition from other sports and competitions. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Policy%2 ... 202013.pdf'" Yes. Quite a lot ike that. Is that happening then?

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"You mean like the ones that were with the structural changes proposal? 5.3.11 In Tier 1, the current Elite Squad Representative Dispensation Allowance is removed, to be replaced by regulation that limits the Salary Cap Value of a Club Trained Player at a nominal value of £100k (i.e. for any Club Trained Player with a Salary Cap Value of over £100k, his Salary Cap Value will be assessed at £100k only with any additional wage not included in his salary cap value). This would reward clubs for producing elite talent and give them an opportunity to retain this talent in the face of competition from other sports and competitions. media.therfl.co.uk/docs/Policy%2 ... 202013.pdf'" Yes. Quite a lot ike that. Is that happening then?

It isn't being increased because not everyone can afford to pay the cap we've got.

I don't think players move to the NRL purely for the money. I think the chance to play in the best league in the world against the top players in the world is a big lure.

As a sport, if we want to raise the salary cap, which I'd like to assume everyone would, we have to generate more money.