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First of all - let me point out I'm a big fan of this kid - think he's showing plenty of potential. And whilst this isn't the most serious of threads, we need our goal kicking as good as possible.
So.... I really think he needs to drop the silly pre-conversion routine.
I get the feeling he's really keen to build a brand for himself and that 'tracing the posts' is a gimmik to help this as he knows he'll look different and be remembered for it - he also does the whole giving away his headgear to a kid, which whilst a nice touch, but is done because he's seen JT doing it and getting plenty of positive PR for it. (Im not knocking Golding for doing it too by the way)
I actually think what he's doing is having a negative effect on his kicking, I'd love to see his kicking stats pre-gimmick/post-gimmik.
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His goal kicking will get better as he progresses (no Sherlock) give the kid a chance. He has fantastic potential.
Plus he might add to his routine. A little spinny twirl perhaps.
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| Quote ="Bang"His goal kicking will get better as he progresses (no poop Sherlock) give the kid a chance. He has fantastic potential.
Plus he might add to his routine. A little spinny twirl perhaps.'"
I'm not saying don't give him a chance, we need to give him plenty of time - he just needs to drop the attention seeking gimmik IMO |
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As far as we know, it's a routine that helps him to kick goals, unless Golding has come out and made a statement to the contrary. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to take off the tinfoil hat.
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Kicking routines have been a thing since Jonny Wilkinsons toilet-esque squat. If it helps him do the same thing every time then that's fair enough, as long as 'the same thing' gives you an 80%+ success rate. We were spoiled by Sinny for so many years though, so we can't expect too much.
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The point I'm making (badly by the looks of it) is that I think he's doing it for the wrong reasons, and I don't think it's helping from watching his style - I think it's making him snatch at his kicks - he loses a bit of focus for me...
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he's done it since I saw him as a kid in a cup final. don't think it's a gimmick just habit
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He's doing whatever routine makes him comfortable enough to kick Goals how that can come across as a "Gimmick" is bizzare imo.
Sinny always kept his head down Farrell used to talk to himself Sneyd stands side on et etc EVERY GK has their routine.
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Good grief
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Must just be me then... I would add, most activities where focus and precision are required usually teach and rely on as little head movement as possible.
I suppose the proof will be in his percentages - I don't remember seeing this technique from him prior to this season, but if others have, clearly it's not a new thing to him.
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Bit supercritical to have a go at one of the big successes of the season. Leave him alone and let him develop in his own way.
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I thought it was his best all round performance so far this season. Hopefully, his injury isn't too serious
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It seems to me that most contributors to this forum are only happy when moaning about this player or another. I go to see a good game win loose or draw and I accept that the players will have good and bad games. They are human just like the rest of us. Chill out and enjoy or stop going.
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| Quote ="Superted"I get the feeling he's really keen to build a brand for himself and that 'tracing the posts' is a gimmik to help this as he knows he'll look different and be remembered for it - '"
Hope he's right in that case as he'll probably only be widely remembered for it if he's part of a successful team. |
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Jeez some folk on here are a little precious and defensive.
I started my post by stating how I'm a big fan - his overall game is improving and he's showing plenty of promise... it's just one small thing that I believe is being done for the wrong reason, and IMO could actually have a negative impact on just his conversion attempts - hardly pulling the kid to bits.
Please accept my unreserved apologies... I shall remember not to dare discuss any observations or thoughts on potential development areas of the players moving forward...
Everything is rosy - peace and goodwill to all...
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Apart from the checking out of the desired target, his style is reminiscent of Kevs. Let's hope in twenty years time young players are emulating it because he was a Loiners legend. As long as its what settles him to be calm and focused, can't really see a problem.
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| Quote ="Superted" I actually think what he's doing is having a negative effect on his kicking, I'd love to see his kicking stats pre-gimmick/post-gimmik.'"
This season is the first time he's kicked at goal at 1st grade level - I've no idea if there was a pre gimmick period. It was fun to see when it appeared V Wakefield and he went 7 from 7 including the one from the sideline so I would say who cares as long as it works for him but since then it's been 7 from 13 - overall 70% success rate from 20 attempts - below average for a top marksman. |
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| Quote ="tvoc"This season is the first time he's kicked at goal at 1st grade level - I've no idea if there was a pre gimmick period. It was fun to see when it appeared V Wakefield and he went 7 from 7 including the one from the sideline so I would say who cares as long as it works for him but since then it's been 7 from 13 - overall 70% success rate from 20 attempts - below average for a top marksman.'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"This season is the first time he's kicked at goal at 1st grade level - I've no idea if there was a pre gimmick period. It was fun to see when it appeared V Wakefield and he went 7 from 7 including the one from the sideline so I would say who cares as long as it works for him but since then it's been 7 from 13 - overall 70% success rate from 20 attempts - below average for a top marksman.'" exactly!! |
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| Quote ="Superted"Cheers for the figures TVOC... 70% not a bad figure at all for a rookie to be fair.'"
No worries.
2015: All Kicker Options 172/217 = 79% (Sinfield 137/162 = 85%)
How Leeds have fared so far in the post Sinfield era
2016: 100/136 = 74% (Sutcliffe 54/73 = 74%, Lilley 38/47 = 81%, Hardaker 4/8 = 50%, Watkins 4/8 = 50%)
2017: 33/45 = 73% (Sutcliffe 14/17 = 82%, Golding 14/20 = 70%, Burrow 4/6 = 67%, Watkins 1/1 = 100%, Lilley 0/1 = 0%, ) |
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| Quote ="Superted"Jeez some folk on here are a little precious and defensive.
I started my post by stating how I'm a big fan - his overall game is improving and he's showing plenty of promise... it's just one small thing that I believe is being done for the wrong reason, and IMO could actually have a negative impact on just his conversion attempts - hardly pulling the kid to bits.
Please accept my unreserved apologies... I shall remember not to dare discuss any observations or thoughts on potential development areas of the players moving forward...
Everything is rosy - peace and goodwill to all...'"
You believed it was done for the wrong reason? You were wrong! Can't see why you're getting upset that people challenged your view given they've seen the kid do it at junior level and beyond. You've been corrected so what's the problem? |
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At least he hasnt reached Jamie Soward level ridiculousness
Anyone whos done any goalkicking knows that routines are for 2 reasons
1 to lower heart rate
2 to take out pressure as a factor by making sure you exactly the same as you do on the training field
If tracing the posts helps Golding do that then who cares
Fact is we need a kicker of at least a 75% season average, hopefully that will be Golding
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Who cares, he was the Rhinos best player by a mile v Warrington.
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GH said all players need gimmicks now if they want a better contract, Ferres' gimmick is that every 6 weeks he's going to put on Rob Burrows body weight in fat.
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Personally I like Golding he has been working hard on all aspects of his game. As to his kicking style ,his head tilt is a shortened version of Owen Farell method for aiming at sticks but if as others have said it works for him then great...As with all kickers they will have off days..even JT does. The thing is about maintaining consistency in choice of kicker even when player is having an off period..not to change as this will effect confidence not just in kicking but in other areas.
Here are some other stats on Kev..
2003 141 attempted 106 goals 35 missed 75% success rate
2004 164 attempted 129 goals 35 missed 79% success rate
2008 137 attempted 106 goals 31 missed 77% success rate
2009 135 attempted 107 goals 28 missed 79% success rate
2014 95 attempted 74 goals 21 missed 78% success rate
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Personally I like Golding he has been working hard on all aspects of his game. As to his kicking style ,his head tilt is a shortened version of Owen Farell method for aiming at sticks but if as others have said it works for him then great...As with all kickers they will have off days..even JT does. The thing is about maintaining consistency in choice of kicker even when player is having an off period..not to change as this will effect confidence not just in kicking but in other areas.
Here are some other stats on Kev..
2003 141 attempted 106 goals 35 missed 75% success rate
2004 164 attempted 129 goals 35 missed 79% success rate
2008 137 attempted 106 goals 31 missed 77% success rate
2009 135 attempted 107 goals 28 missed 79% success rate
2014 95 attempted 74 goals 21 missed 78% success rate
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