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| Anyone watching? Didn't think much to the first episode really. Don't think I learnt anything new.
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| I watched it, found it quite interesting. Also shows the couple of previews were cleverly framed as if Cam Smith was having a go at RS when he wasn't, and the clip of Bentley post concussion.
The interesting stuff will be RS getting sacked and BA coming in. The general chat about how hopeful all the players were for the season was a bit boring, as we all know how it ended.
Ultimately, we need more of this kind of coverage in RL, so I hope it does really well. You can see NRL teams all doing documentary style content, and it's become the norm in football and American sports. Fair play to the club for giving it a go.
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| I was a bit bored after 20 minutes to be honest. I get the idea but feels like it should be for a team winning the championship, not finishing 8th.
Whilst it was good to see the players optimistic at the start of the year, knowing we ultimately flopped isn't good. It's a bit like when Leeds used to be a force, I would love re-watching the match the next day whereas I don't think I could have put myself through that last year for any match.
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| I haven't watched it yet, but I'm glad sky and RL have started to embrace the documentary medium. I'm not a fan of NFL or F1, but the America's game and Drive to Survive documentary series are fantastic. Hopefully, the Spirit of the rhinos documentary will help people interested in the game who may not have considered watching the game before.
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| It’s good, the next episode will be better. It confirmed to me that Smith was out of his depth, he couldn’t see the need for changing his approach when he’d been worked out by the other coaches. Some of the criticisms of him about passive defence were not correct, he had a different plan for sure, around defending kicks etc. but the fact that we couldn’t see what he was trying to achieve must suggest the players were at least a bit confused by it too.
Looking forward to seeing BA arrive, we suspected he stripped back everything to basics and this will show if we were right. RL is a simple game, over complicated by those who don’t see the need to work harder than the opposition to win.
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| It's crap.
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| Rohan is painfully lost in the post game meeting footage.
You can almost see Gary cringing in the background at one point.
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| Second episode confirmed again that Smith was a long way out of his depth. I get that you can edit things to make certain stuff appear, but the silence in the changing rooms, the speech by a clearly very frustrated Rhyse Martin, Cam telling the team that he’s sick of hearing it, they all point to a coach who cannot get a hold of the team and narrative.
I’m bursting to see the next one with BA, I think you’ll see a completely different approach.
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| Really enjoyed it. Been very truthful. Can't believe have to wait till 20th for next episode.
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| Quote ="DMF"It's crap.'"
Couldn't agree more, nothing interesting in there at all. Everyone just watching it and seeing what they want to believe. Pointing to the speech by Martin and Smith as a failure of Rohan Smith; they're senior players I'd expect them to be making speeches.
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| So you think a senior pro, going so openly and vocally against what the coach is saying in the dressing room after another thumping defeat is a rousing approval of the coaches tactics and appraisal of performance?
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| Quote ="MrPotatoHead"Couldn't agree more, nothing interesting in there at all. Everyone just watching it and seeing what they want to believe. Pointing to the speech by Martin and Smith as a failure of Rohan Smith; they're senior players I'd expect them to be making speeches.'"
It's far more interesting than watching a winning team. Looking forward to the episodes with Arthur for comparison. Will give us a good insight into next season.
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| I'd argue that even the most ardent Rohan fans will watch that and say he looked lost.
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| Fascinating watch, and I'm assuming it will be the most interesting of the series.
In many ways, it does confirm a lot of things. RS doesn't seem too bad when things are on the up, and there's decent performances. I wouldn't say anyone watched episode 1 and thought he looks completely incompetent.
As displayed in episode 2, he just didn't have any ability galvanise the team and pull them out of a hole. In fact, he seemed too pre-occupied on trying to be positive than making players accountable.
I think strong teams need to have key players and coaches that players want to play for. We seemed to be lacking a bit of both under RS. We need the players to step up next season in this regard too.
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| Quote ="MrPotatoHead"Couldn't agree more, nothing interesting in there at all. Everyone just watching it and seeing what they want to believe. Pointing to the speech by Martin and Smith as a failure of Rohan Smith; they're senior players I'd expect them to be making speeches.'"
What would you want to see included?
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| Something actually interesting that we haven't seen before. It's a behind the scenes documentary - why didn't they show us the conversations around Rohans departure between those involved and the subsequent search for a new coach for instance.
A real missed opportunity. I can see why they didn't want to show all, which in my opinion is an enormous miss, but other sports such as football, have really given a true behind the scenes reflection of how clubs operate over a season. I don't think, as Leeds fans, we have particularly learned much from the first two episodes.
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| Quote ="exiledrhino"Fascinating watch, and I'm assuming it will be the most interesting of the series.
In many ways, it does confirm a lot of things. RS doesn't seem too bad when things are on the up, and there's decent performances. I wouldn't say anyone watched episode 1 and thought he looks completely incompetent.
As displayed in episode 2, he just didn't have any ability galvanise the team and pull them out of a hole. In fact, he seemed too pre-occupied on trying to be positive than making players accountable.
I think strong teams need to have key players and coaches that players want to play for. We seemed to be lacking a bit of both under RS. We need the players to step up next season in this regard too.'"
I can remember watching some footage of Rohan talking to the team at half time when they were losing and i was really shocked at how poor he came across when trying to motivate the team, he was really odd in the way he was delivering his message and just didn't expect it.. i thought he'd be much tougher.
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| Yeah overall the documentary has been rather disappointing. It’s largely just an extended rehash of the behind the scenes that they put on YouTube. Most of the successful behind the scenes documentaries have had real behind the scenes conversations like what happens in the managers office. It’s fine for a freebie with membership but i did expect more.
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| Such emotion from Martin when speaking to his team mates at the end of the KR game. He was a fantastic player for us. He will be remembered very very fondly.
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| Enjoyed the final ep.
BA takes no prisoners does he - great to see.
In stark contrast to GH, predictably banging on again about the most competitive SL ever ....etc
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| Not that bothered to watch this in full but thought I'd dip into some key bits. Anyone know how to access it if you've only just renewed for next year so not received any of the codes? Or is that a penalty for leaving renewal until the last minute (fair enough if so!)
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| If anything summed up how the club had got into the mess it has since 2015, it was GH's attempt to put yet another pile of garbage season down to how competitive SL is.
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| I fear that all the Leeds players think that by having a tough pre-season from Arthur that they will instantly be a top team. I am concerned they believe they can just turn up next season and they will be a top four side.
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| [quote="rugbyleague88":2m8pj74o]I fear that all the Leeds players think that by having a tough pre-season from Arthur that they will instantly be a top team. I am concerned they believe they can just turn up next season and they will be a top four side.[/quote:2m8pj74o]
Seems an illogical concern to me. Would you rather they were as unfit as they were last year? Friendlies don't tell us much, but a feature of Boxing Day was the improved and sustained line speed. Last year we simply were not well conditioned enough to execute Arthur's game plan. If they can take that one aspect into the season proper, they'll be much improved.
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