[quote="rollin thunder":fl2ysm26]Any less than top 4 is simply not good enough. Calling HKR and Warrington top clubs, above us is an insult to what we have achieved in the Sl era. Anything less than competing for the 3 trophies available is failure.[/quote:fl2ysm26] An insult? Keep your knickers on, they are much better than we have been for the last few years. I didn't realise that we were still playing SL from 10 years ago when we were decent.

No wonder other fans call us entitled whinos!

[quote="LeedsLurch":1par3nkf]No wonder other fans call us entitled whinos![/quote:1par3nkf] Entitled Whinos.

The thing is it's where a club of our size, facilities and spending power should be (top 4 as a minimum), but, it needs to be earned on and off the park and we've not earned it for too long. We eat humble pie until we get our backsides back to something like.

It will be interesting to see how the likes of Leigh and Salford do. Leigh have had to go through a rebuild and Salford look like they'll lose at least a couple of their best players.

thing is, you can't continually lose your best players every year and do well. salford will be lower mid table for me