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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"We'll take who shuddersfield tell us to take.'"
Back to completely misrepresenting the club again Hudds.
The fact is we have played just the two Ollies, both forwards.
Why?
Because we have a confirmed weak pack.
The offer was Huddersfield the decision was ours which turned out to be a good one on each occasion.
What alternative options do we have to try and address a problem area?
None.
When the club don’t act their wrong, when they do act their wrong.
By the way this latest signing is on loan not on DR and from Hull not Huddersfield.
At least the club hasn’t thrown the towel in yet or resorted to blaming the supporters and slagging them them off at every opportunity.
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| There's none so blind as those that will not see.
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| And those sat at home can see bugger all.
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| Quote ="Dbvada"Spot on, we are not even a "feeder club", we are a home for the odd lad who can't make the unbeaten top of the table team.'"
Really.
What happened to.
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“Thank goodness for DR, Roberts made the difference”
And on DR.
“It’s a logical step for a club like Fax who no longer has the resources to pursue promotion etc?”
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"That's correct but if you were an opposition coach and watched the tries scored against us in't cup tie you would just get anyone with any pace to run at Muzza and hey presto! 4 points! Time is up for him as good as he's been. A certain Hall of Fame for Scott but as great as he has been for Fax and a possible future coach maybe, he epitomizes what is wrong at the club player wise.'"
Is that the one try that was scored past Murrell, with a kick behind him?? What about the 3 trys scored down our other side, the 2 in the 2nd half in particular, one a poor misread by our centre, the other soft tackling by same centre and 3 others. I presume you went to the Rams game where without Murrell, chances are we would have lost comfortably. To be fair to him, regardless of how much in shape he is in, he will never be the quickest player, but he was set the objective of getting into shape this year and in my view he has done that and is probably as lean as he has ever been for us, and looking sharper. One things for sure, he's not responsible for us getting dominated in the pack and around the ruck and for all the penalties our forwards are giving away.
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| Quote ="gizempo"Is that the one try that was scored past Murrell, with a kick behind him?? What about the 3 trys scored down our other side, the 2 in the 2nd half in particular, one a poor misread by our centre, the other soft tackling by same centre and 3 others. I presume you went to the Rams game where without Murrell, chances are we would have lost comfortably. To be fair to him, regardless of how much in shape he is in, he will never be the quickest player, but he was set the objective of getting into shape this year and in my view he has done that and is probably as lean as he has ever been for us, and looking sharper. One things for sure, he's not responsible for us getting dominated in the pack and around the ruck and for all the penalties our forwards are giving away.'"
Agreed.
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| Quote ="faxcar"And those sat at home can see bugger all.
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Or Sat in't pub. Lol!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Or Sat in't pub. Lol!'"
In’t corner, on his own most likely.
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| [Part quote="gizempo"One things for sure, he's not responsible for us getting dominated in the pack and around the ruck and for all the penalties our forwards are giving away.'"
Ha, the ruck is the key because we lose it more often than not both when defending and when attacking.
It’s largely down to Line speed.
Attack.
Instead of taking the ball in at pace we rumble forward and get knocked over by the faster moving, more aggressive defender.
Then because of being on the back foot, panic and put the ball down.
Defence.
Instead of moving into the tackle at pace we rumble forward and get knocked over by the faster moving more aggressive attacker.
Then because of being on the back foot, bugger about and get penalised.
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| Quote ="gizempo"Is that the one try that was scored past Murrell, with a kick behind him?? What about the 3 trys scored down our other side, the 2 in the 2nd half in particular, one a poor misread by our centre, the other soft tackling by same centre and 3 others. I presume you went to the Rams game where without Murrell, chances are we would have lost comfortably. To be fair to him, regardless of how much in shape he is in, he will never be the quickest player, but he was set the objective of getting into shape this year and in my view he has done that and is probably as lean as he has ever been for us, and looking sharper. One things for sure, he's not responsible for us getting dominated in the pack and around the ruck and for all the penalties our forwards are giving away.'"
Spot on. I think the 2nd try is a very poor read by our full back. To be so far away from that kick after the distance from the play the ball to the try is not that large suggest a mis-read. The last try there is no way that player should be getting that ball down once the 3rd player is involved.
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| After 40 years supporting Fax my first post - driven by the depressing negativity that seems to dominate this forum. 2 league games played, 1 won and we have 4 or 5 posts about an new exciting loan signing and10 pages dominated by "fans" slagging off the coach,players and directors.
There are obviously some genuine fans that can still put forward a balanced/supportive view in spite of their understandable frustrations with some parts of the team's performance, but some,possibly clinging to past glories seem determined to knock everything the club attempt to do unless it involves immediately producing free flowing error free rugby, played by top players without recourse to dual registration. (and all this on crowds of 1500)
Success in rugby - as in everything else goes in cycles - I've been lucky enough to enjoy some fantastic days watching the team - but I've also watched every home game in a season without a win
I'm hopeful that in time we can enjoy more of the good days but personally feel this is more likely to happen with support/encouragement rather than constant complaining.
Rant over!
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| Quote ="Ilkley Fax"After 40 years supporting Fax my first post - driven by the depressing negativity that seems to dominate this forum. 2 league games played, 1 won and we have 4 or 5 posts about an new exciting loan signing and10 pages dominated by "fans" slagging off the coach,players and directors.
There are obviously some genuine fans that can still put forward a balanced/supportive view in spite of their understandable frustrations with some parts of the team's performance, but some,possibly clinging to past glories seem determined to knock everything the club attempt to do unless it involves immediately producing free flowing error free rugby, played by top players without recourse to dual registration. (and all this on crowds of 1500)
Success in rugby - as in everything else goes in cycles - I've been lucky enough to enjoy some fantastic days watching the team - but I've also watched every home game in a season without a win
I'm hopeful that in time we can enjoy more of the good days but personally feel this is more likely to happen with support/encouragement rather than constant complaining.
Rant over!'"
If I pay good money for a product, I expect good quality service or goods.
Otherwise, people are likely to complain, or go elsewhere.
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"If I pay good money for a product, I expect good quality service or goods.
Otherwise, people are likely to complain, or go elsewhere.'"
Is that what Fax are, just a service or goods, just something bought and ordered up?
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| Quote ="faxcar"Is that what Fax are, just a service or goods, just something bought and ordered up?'"
6000 ex fans must think so
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| Whilst it is true that fax are in a mess it really can’t be laid at the current Bod, I would say the coach as well but as yet he has not proved himself worthy of the name, he had a few good results when he took the job (don’t they all), but so far not much has changed on the field for a few years.
For me it has been going wrong since (the alleged Fat Controller) Nigel Woods managed to get Fax relegated from Super League in ’98 (?) and did not support with a parachute payment as other clubs in other years before and after received. Maybe even before that when he landed Fax with the idiotic ‘Blue Sox’ moniker, against the majority of supporter’s votes. Fax were cheated out of a super league licence when, clearly on more than one application they had better facilities than other clubs at the time, Leigh, Castleford, Wakefield even the mighty Bradford and St Helens were not as good as Fax’s ground at that time(whether you like being at the shay, that is a different argument), Woods again?
Bod’s and coach’s in the past have also contributed to the calamity over the last 21 years in various ways, as Ilkley Fax says we have had some bright spots in the 21 seasons past, not enough for a club with the heritage of Fax though. JeffVickers you say quote” If I pay good money for a product, I expect good quality service or goods” hells bells man 21 years!, faxcar has stated 6000 others voted with their feet, and Hudds Shay has this year (so far) thrown in the towel.
I have said previously, everyone the terrace thinks they are a better coach or BoD member than those in the position right now, if so offer your services and show up. You can all throw stones at me as I am not physically in a position to be there, but my heart is still a Fax lad, I keep saying I have had enough, but every week I am mentally willing the Blue n White to win. It is a long Season ahead, no one knows what the Rugby Gods have in store on or off the park. Keep the faith . Come on Fax 'getinto ‘em’
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"6000 ex fans must think so'" .
No one can say what 6000 other people are thinking.
And there aren’t 6000 posting on here moaning all the time just the same 2 or 3 making 6000 posts moaning all the time.
Low crowds have affected every club at one time or another.
There are multiple reasons why and to blame this BoD for it all is simply ignoring the facts.
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| The quality of product on the field, the abysmal standard of refereeing. Lee Kenny's marketing company his trying is best to polish a turd.
The game is becoming so poor and frustrating that if that Fax Dewsbury game was free admission, more than half of the crowd will have gone home by half time.
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| Quote ="jeffvickers"The quality of product on the field, the abysmal standard of refereeing. Lee Kenny's marketing company his trying is best to polish a turd.
The game is becoming so poor and frustrating that if that Fax Dewsbury game was free admission, more than half of the crowd will have gone home by half time.'"
Yep. Very few games actually stir any emotions that we typically associate with rugby league, the only thing that’s gets me up out of my seat these days is to buy a burger or go to the loo.
Just look at the standard of many of the televised Super League games, they are consistently at turn off or turn over level.
Our BoD can’t be blamed that, or for the standard of refereeing or why so many reffs have left the game and we’ve got young 20 year olds officiating.
On the 6000 ex supporters mentioned they haven’t stopped coming since this BoD took over have they, so why blame them for it?
That’s simply my point, they get blamed for everything, all the time.
I just think it’s a misrepresentation of the club and will debate that point.
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| faxcar if you are going to quote me please be accurate!
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| faxcar many apologies just reread your post. : (
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"faxcar if you are going to quote me please be accurate!'"
I didn’t know I had, please explain.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"faxcar many apologies just reread your post. : ('"
No need, you haven’t done anything.
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| Quote ="faxcar"In’t corner, on his own most likely.
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Correct,Lol! Meandering Bear, Helmsley Brewing, Yorkshire Ledgend 3.8% Mmm!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Correct,Lol! Meandering Bear, Helmsley Brewing, Yorkshire Ledgend 3.8% Mmm!'"
It’s okay Hudds i’m In the other corner on my own sipping shandy.
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| Is he still with a performance like that against a supposed top 5 team.
Stick that in yer pipe yer miserable sods.
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