[quote="Bubba":1eqehxex]He's one voice. Don't be so paranoid[/quote:1eqehxex] There is no being paranoid. Yes he is one voice but it is a voice of hatred towards Fax and when he has influence over a lot of members on that forum who seem incapable of thinking for themselves then it becomes a problem. I do have a feeling what you are saying and what you think about the situation are two totally different things. Again would you allow someone on your group who had expressed a hatred of all things Town going back nearly a decade?

With another football game being postponed ( before Fax have been anywhere near it ) with the backlog of games and the rugby season getting ever closer I can see the issues with the weather and pitch coming to the fore. In view of recent posts it will be enlightening to see if and how much blame and abuse will be levelled at the rugby club again.

[quote="faxcar":2g3xhsnf]With another football game being postponed ( before Fax have been anywhere near it ) with the backlog of games and the rugby season getting ever closer I can see the issues with the weather and pitch coming to the fore. In view of recent posts it will be enlightening to see if and how much blame and abuse will be levelled at the rugby club again.[/quote:2g3xhsnf] The usual drivel , latest topic is entitled bad news then basically slagging off saltys testimonial and rent arrears even though hoddie admits after yet another foi the payment plan is upto schedule , words such as parasites , the usual squatters etc .

[quote="Listenup94":3ul97w1x]The usual drivel , latest topic is entitled bad news then basically slagging off saltys testimonial and rent arrears even though hoddie admits after yet another foi the payment plan is upto schedule , words such as parasites , the usual squatters etc .[/quote:3ul97w1x] Well that being the case as you’ve previously alluded to, the attitude and comments of those people on there should be clearly made known to CMBC and any other interested parties so if and when they make a decision on new ownership or running of the Shay whether any of those on there should either as individuals or as a group have any involvement with the years of hatred and abuse on their cv’s clearly on display.

Just hope that something can be sorted or it will be another 30 years going around in a circle . Best wishes

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Wow that would surely be great news for you lot and Halifax Town?

[quote="Bullseye":2ljx91q5]Wow that would surely be great news for you lot and Halifax Town?[/quote:2ljx91q5] Only if you fancy watching Halifax Giant Sox in a year or two.....

Well Fax is more of a rugby town than Hudders.

Just have to wait and see how things turn out but if the councils choice is between a fans trust who won’t have the financial clout or Ken Davy then you would have thought he would be in the driving seat but there would have to be clarification what would happen to the Shay when he goes. Does raise a question mark over all the rumours of the other interested parties if as stated there’s only the above 2 in the running and several others questions as well too numerous to mention. Unless the other interest in Fax is just to come in as new owners of the club and not both it and the Shay?

[quote="Mr Dog":3nxr8klw]Only if you fancy watching Halifax Giant Sox in a year or two.....[/quote:3nxr8klw] It does feel like the first step in becoming an NRL feeder club. Given our financial position, we're somewhat over a barrel. If the upgrades are done, great. But then the value goes up and it costs more to buy back. You have to think that more interested parties is going to push the purchase price up as it is.

I told you about the interest from huddersfield months ago in the "merger with huddersfield" thread and I got well and truly dissed for it!

At the shirt launch the other week I heard that Davey was in discussions with the consortium working with the club. And that the consortium was also looking at running the stadium in a trust capacity. The difference from the "other" interested group being that they would have more clout to arrange events etc that could provide revenue opportunities for the club(s). Apparently Davey has made it clear that whilst he wants to get involved, this is for the purpose of providing an interim solution for the giants; he won't be a sugar daddy for fax and the giants will eventually move to their own stadium. But his involvement might help secure the Shay and provide a platform to improve costs and revenues for each club. He had been told the pitch couldn't handle 3 teams, well it can't handle 2. So it would require that to be resolved and hybrid pitch would seem to be that fix. The 2 main concerns for me are, firstly I believe it would take circa 12 weeks for the new pitch to take. So if they wanted to move in 2026, some rescheduling would be needed or for us to play our home games elsewhere before then. Secondly once the Giants are here. We risk losing fans, particularly, younger ones. Rather than watching say Fax at Hunslet, the Giants playing a Wigan at the the Shay might be more appealing. And moreso if Fax struggle to compete again like last season .

Short term pain for long term gain?

[quote="gizempo":tbt1u7g2]At the shirt launch the other week I heard that Davey was in discussions with the consortium working with the club. And that the consortium was also looking at running the stadium in a trust capacity. The difference from the "other" interested group being that they would have more clout to arrange events etc that could provide revenue opportunities for the club(s). Apparently Davey has made it clear that whilst he wants to get involved, this is for the purpose of providing an interim solution for the giants; he won't be a sugar daddy for fax and the giants will eventually move to their own stadium. But his involvement might help secure the Shay and provide a platform to improve costs and revenues for each club. He had been told the pitch couldn't handle 3 teams, well it can't handle 2. So it would require that to be resolved and hybrid pitch would seem to be that fix. The 2 main concerns for me are, firstly I believe it would take circa 12 weeks for the new pitch to take. So if they wanted to move in 2026, some rescheduling would be needed or for us to play our home games elsewhere before then. Secondly once the Giants are here. We risk losing fans, particularly, younger ones. Rather than watching say Fax at Hunslet, the Giants playing a Wigan at the the Shay might be more appealing. And moreso if Fax struggle to compete again like last season .[/quote:tbt1u7g2] Plenty of useful and thoughtful info in what you have said and just picking out one point where you mentioned the consortium working with the club ( Fax ). We have all heard the rumours which have been going round for some time now but if they are involved how come the council said they were considering up to March just 2 options which were the FC Town trust and that of Ken Davy? How is it Fax and the consortium aren’t mentioned as a third option?

Are they even a plausible option when you consider their history.

[quote="faxcar":19xz022j]Plenty of useful and thoughtful info in what you have said and just picking out one point where you mentioned the consortium working with the club ( Fax ). We have all heard the rumours which have been going round for some time now but if they are involved how come the council said they were considering up to March just 2 options which were the FC Town trust and that of Ken Davy? How is it Fax and the consortium aren’t mentioned as a third option?[/quote:19xz022j] Maybe the Council set an original deadline for bids and one never materialised from Halifax RL.

[quote="faxcar":35eiji2t]Plenty of useful and thoughtful info in what you have said and just picking out one point where you mentioned the consortium working with the club ( Fax ). We have all heard the rumours which have been going round for some time now but if they are involved how come the council said they were considering up to March just 2 options which were the FC Town trust and that of Ken Davy? How is it Fax and the consortium aren’t mentioned as a third option?[/quote:35eiji2t] From what I heard, it was the Fax group that were in discussions with Davy, whether this has now taken a different turn or its just the way this is being reported as Davy leading this, remains to be seen.

[quote="gizempo":30g4h2v9]From what i heard, it was the Fax group that were in discussions with Davy, whether this has now taken a different turn or its just they way this is being reported as Davy leading this, remains to be seen.[/quote:30g4h2v9] Which fits with some of the info I had heard that something was being discussed between the club and interested parties ( the consortium ) over the ownership of Fax and if it came off round about the springtime ( which fits with CMBC end of March deadline for getting shut ) it would be “Big”. So at that time anyone taking control of the club also had the running of the Shay to take into consideration and were obviously looking at ways of doing it. This was before Ken Davy came onto the scene but now he’s shown a firm interest with the clout to do it the options have now recently changed with him in pole position. One possibility is we could end up with new different owners of both the club and the Shay in the same period of time running up to the end of the typical financial year.

Haa anyone considered that all this might just be a ruse by Mr Davy to use as leverage against shuddersfield council to meet his own agenda?

[quote="Hudd-Shay":1d2eq0md]Haa anyone considered that all this might just be a ruse by Mr Davy to use as leverage against shuddersfield council to meet his own agenda?[/quote:1d2eq0md] Yep. You have Hudds.

I think its the lesser of two evils, although i like the idea of the working group, I hate the idea that there is someone on it that might throw a party if Fax went bust. As Fax fans I am not sure how we could support something like that and although there are a lot of unanswered questions with the Davy bid its pretty obvious the council would rather get rid of the ground over have another group just running it. I feel like the working group is just kicking the can down the road, they don't have any financial muscle and its just going to keep the status quo for the next few years.

Let Davy come in and do the refurb. FC and Fax don’t have the money to do it. In fact Fax will never have the money to chip in. As Bubba has said Bosworth doesn’t have any interest in The Shay. Where will The Shay end up after someone has had a purpose built pitch laid and LED lighting installed who knows, but the work will not get done without Davy. As GFB said if the fans group or working group get hold of it they have no money of comparison to Davy and the issue would get prolonged

[quote="faxcar":2jkf8oyk]Which fits with some of the info I had heard that something was being discussed between the club and interested parties ( the consortium ) over the ownership of Fax and if it came off round about the springtime ( which fits with CMBC end of March deadline for getting shut ) it would be “Big”. So at that time anyone taking control of the club also had the running of the Shay to take into consideration and were obviously looking at ways of doing it. This was before Ken Davy came onto the scene but now he’s shown a firm interest with the clout to do it the options have now recently changed with him in pole position. One possibility is we could end up with new different owners of both the club and the Shay in the same period of time running up to the end of the typical financial year.[/quote:2jkf8oyk] Having asked around ( you know my sources ) the edited version is the rugby consortium were in discussion with the Council about taking over the running of the shay then Davy made his proposal and ultimately because of his vast wealth he can get the works done quicker . What gizempo put is spot on but the aim is for Davy, the rugby consortium and the shaymen to all work together to find solutions that work for everyone, lots and lots of negotiations and moving parts so nothing set in stone . I'm still digesting the proposal because as been mentioned there are risks attached on multiple levels.

While Ken Davy has the financial clout, the whole thing doesn't sit easy with me. When KD became the owner of Huddersfield Town, buying them out of administration if I recall correctly, he transferred the Football Clubs shares in the stadium into a trust or business that he controlled for a nominal £1. To "safeguard" them. When new owner at Huddersfield town was settled (Dean Hoyle I think) KD tried to sell the shares back at market rate. This led to a long drawn out affair and he certainly isn't popular with the Town fans. He's a businessman, if he spends money it is to make money (except with the Giants of course). So if he sinks a large amount of cash into The Shay, he'll want a return on the investment eventually. Personally I can't see a new stadium in Huddersfield been built. There are very limited suitable sites. Especially now modern planning regs will have to show how you plan for people to travel to games using public transport. The only site near the town centre suitable would have been the old Sports Centre but the Uni are building on that now, So in 3-5 years, Huddersfield are either still playing at The Shay, or looking for a return to The John Smiths, where all evidence of the Giants existence has already been removed in favour a very blue and white theme. Kevin Nagel (town owner) has said the Giants are welcome as long as they want to be there, but KD has started laying the foundations to move out. Then there is also the issue, KD isn't a young man, what if something happens to him?