i think gove would be the best option now for pm

Michael Gove?

Gove for PM? Never in a million years.

It has been so delicious this last 24 hours or so, seeing the liberal, Starbucks-drinking, iPod generation crying into their Social Justice course papers. Democracy when it suits, eh? Hypocrites. Even better has been the BBC crying themselves stupid. I can't wait for the documentary 'Brexit: why ARE white people so bigoted'?

Also... celebrities, British celebrities who moved abroad, people who don't and won't feel the squeeze on services, doctors, schools etc that (uncontrolled) immigration can cause. Cannot stand them, disgusting creatures.

The 11 members who met today have asked us to begin the exit process immediately, this is their attempt to make an example of us and scare other nations who may be harbouring ideas of referendums of their own into compliance.
All they have succeeded in doing so far is to highlight themselves as acting like petulant children instead of providing a calm and measured response in keeping with the way European citizens would expect the people who govern them to do.

Mind you, it could also have something to do with the realisation that their individual countries contributions will increase. Its predicted that Germany will have to cough up an additional 2.8 Billion Euros.
No wonder the toys are in orbit.....

So it starts. No more immigrants and immigrants out.

It will all get worse as well.

6h ago
16:13
Police are investigating suspected post-referendum racism after hate mail aimed at the Polish community was allegedly distributed in Cambridgeshire.

Laminated cards reading “Leave the EU - no more Polish vermin” were found in Huntingdon, north west of Cambridge.

The Polish language newspaper, Nasze Strony, reports on the incident and on the fact that the cards even had a translation in Polish on the reverse.

Teachers at a school near to where some of the cards were found yesterday reportedly threw them away but more were left on a path leading to it later.

Inspector Nick Percival of Cambridgeshire Constabulary told the Guardian that police were aware of the incident.

He added: “We are aware of it and have had a report from a member of the public. We are following up are taking it seriously as it does represent a hate crime. We would encourage anyone who is either a victim or is aware of the source of this to come forward.”

There are plenty of Poles in Doncaster.
Never had any trouble and don't expect any.

The vote was about 70% leave.
I would say we are a pretty tolerant lot, like most of the UK.

Can't see the pitchforks coming out any time soon.

Polish couple assaulted at a supermarket in Middlesbrough and told to go home yesterday.

There is a slow tide of racism developing Farage is the slightly gormless and respectable face but the darker elements will be following in his footsteps

Incidents like those have been happening for years. The leave vote hasn't encouraged people to all of a sudden to become prejudiced. I'm not condoning these incidents btw.

Accusations of racism have been banded about by many who are, quite frankly, sore losers. It isn't racist to want to break away from an undemocratic organisation ruled by unelected (btw white) bureaucrats. Alright, our democracy isn't perfect but at least it's ours.

Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Incidents like those have been happening for years. The leave vote hasn't encouraged people to all of a sudden to become prejudiced. I'm not condoning these incidents btw. Accusations of racism have been banded about by many who are, quite frankly, sore losers. It isn't racist to want to break away from an undemocratic organisation ruled by unelected (btw white) bureaucrats. Alright, our democracy isn't perfect but at least it's ours.'" Are you denying there was was no anti immigrant agenda in the leave campaign ? Was this a figment of my imagination ? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ichael-g2/ it Are you telling me that this type of talk does not have an affect on the local bigots and idiots. Have I accused you or anyone of Racism ? I have said that the tone of the campaign has potentially unleashed something dark. The constant response of those saying don't call me racist when they have not being accused of it is weird. Maybe you do protest too much I am sure your not a racist. Maybe you will tell me you have lots of polish friends to prove it. Stop been so ing defensive. Antimimmigrantnfeeling will be on the rise. I think there is a strong risk we will go back to the bad old days of the 1970s and 80s with the NF and bnp.

Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Incidents like those have been happening for years. The leave vote hasn't encouraged people to all of a sudden to become prejudiced. I'm not condoning these incidents btw. Accusations of racism have been banded about by many who are, quite frankly, sore losers. It isn't racist to want to break away from an undemocratic organisation ruled by unelected (btw white) bureaucrats. Alright, our democracy isn't perfect but at least it's ours.'" Are you denying there was was no anti immigrant agenda in the leave campaign ? Was this a figment of my imagination ? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ichael-g2/ it Are you telling me that this type of talk does not have an affect on the local bigots and idiots. Have I accused you or anyone of Racism ? I have said that the tone of the campaign has potentially unleashed something dark. The constant response of those saying don't call me racist when they have not being accused of it is weird. Maybe you do protest too much I am sure your not a racist. Maybe you will tell me you have lots of polish friends to prove it. Stop been so ing defensive. Antimimmigrantnfeeling will be on the rise. I think there is a strong risk we will go back to the bad old days of the 1970s and 80s with the NF and bnp.

Now here's a bunch who are even more irritating. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02516.html Including - "I personally voted leave believing these lies, and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my vote." What a sad act .

Now here's a bunch who are even more irritating. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 02516.html Including - "I personally voted leave believing these lies, and I regret it more than anything, I feel genuinely robbed of my vote." What a sad act .

Quote ="Durham Giant"Are you denying there was was no anti immigrant agenda in the leave campaign ? Was this a figment of my imagination ? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ichael-g2/ it Are you telling me that this type of talk does not have an affect on the local bigots and idiots. Have I accused you or anyone of Racism ? I have said that the tone of the campaign has potentially unleashed something dark. The constant response of those saying don't call me racist when they have not being accused of it is weird. Maybe you do protest too much I am sure your not a racist. Maybe you will tell me you have lots of polish friends to prove it. Stop been so loving defensive. Antimimmigrantnfeeling will be on the rise. I think there is a strong risk we will go back to the bad old days of the 1970s and 80s with the NF and bnp.'" Yes there was anti-immigration rhetoric, it's a genuine concern. It may have an effect on bigots, I don't know. I haven't personally seen any examples myself. I haven't claimed that you've accused me or anyone else of racism though others have. Remain campaigners have potentially released something dark. Many examples of people calling to exclude certain groups in society from the democratic process because they have different opinions. Accusations of racism are often used to silence opposing opinions. I do actually have a couple of Polish friends. I don't want to see a total stop to immigration, I just want our country to have the means to control it if it becomes unsustainable. I can't really see a major resurgence of violent far right groups. All we have done is vote to leave an unpopular political union. Some people will be racist whether we are in the EU or not.

Quote ="Durham Giant"Are you denying there was was no anti immigrant agenda in the leave campaign ? Was this a figment of my imagination ? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06 ... ichael-g2/ it Are you telling me that this type of talk does not have an affect on the local bigots and idiots. Have I accused you or anyone of Racism ? I have said that the tone of the campaign has potentially unleashed something dark. The constant response of those saying don't call me racist when they have not being accused of it is weird. Maybe you do protest too much I am sure your not a racist. Maybe you will tell me you have lots of polish friends to prove it. Stop been so loving defensive. Antimimmigrantnfeeling will be on the rise. I think there is a strong risk we will go back to the bad old days of the 1970s and 80s with the NF and bnp.'" Yes there was anti-immigration rhetoric, it's a genuine concern. It may have an effect on bigots, I don't know. I haven't personally seen any examples myself. I haven't claimed that you've accused me or anyone else of racism though others have. Remain campaigners have potentially released something dark. Many examples of people calling to exclude certain groups in society from the democratic process because they have different opinions. Accusations of racism are often used to silence opposing opinions. I do actually have a couple of Polish friends. I don't want to see a total stop to immigration, I just want our country to have the means to control it if it becomes unsustainable. I can't really see a major resurgence of violent far right groups. All we have done is vote to leave an unpopular political union. Some people will be racist whether we are in the EU or not.

I don't know many folk that spout anything more dangerous than pub talk.
There will always be boneheads who will cause bother.

I see nothing more sinister than folk being p/ssed off with unfettered immigration with no corresponding infrastructure improvements.
The anger is against the people who allow this and then call the people who object, racists.

This is a matter of shocking organisation. It is not the fault of immigrants.

Most people ought to be able to see that.

Did I imagine the incident in Birstall or did you not see the news coverage?

Was she an immigrant?

Is there proof that the leave campaign had any influence over the murder?

Hand on heart, if there hadn't been all the jingoism during the referendum campaign, would that incident still have happened?

You seem to be adopting the same approach as the NRA IN America.

Guns don't kill people people kill people.

Jo cox incident bigotry doesn't kill people people kill people.

It is easy to stand back and say, "nothing to do with me".

Lots of racist incidents around country and not just against EU migrants. If everybody keeps calm and people don't try to backtrack on result - and these ill-informed youngsters grow up instead of protesting for a re-run - then it will die down in a few days, If though the voice of the previously unrepresented is ignored then I fear that violent English nationalism could be unleashed. Politicians like the LibDem leader trying to gain advantage from this and the Blairites ripping Labour apart are in danger of fuelling this. Calm and intelligence are required not the current hysteria.

I said something similar to an Australian friend, they have to respect this referendum or it will tear this country apart in a very dangerous way, Mr Lammy calling for it to be flat out ignored and those asking for another vote don't realise the very real prospect of wide spread rioting and reprisals.

Now racists attacks unfortunately have never stopped, i have been racially assaulted when i used to date an Indian girl many years ago. I would never dream of racially assaulting, calling, joking about anyone, my ex wife was Polish.
I was threatened with a knife by 4 black guys when i went to garage gig once because i was literally one of 3 white people in the whole gig and yes, I'm white, minorities get it far worse and i wouldn't ever wish it on anyone.
It's a sad state of affairs that it happens all the time. But now since Friday every attack is because of BREXIT and that is just nonsense.

agreed

How long before those that voted out are in the same position as those who amazingly said they never voted for that woman when reality hits?

I stand by my vote and always will, democracy is sacrosanct

Quote ="Stand-Offish"I don't know many folk that spout anything more dangerous than pub talk. There will always be boneheads who will cause bother. I see nothing more sinister than folk being p/ssed off with unfettered immigration with no corresponding infrastructure improvements. The anger is against the people who allow this and then call the people who object, racists. This is a matter of shocking organisation. It is not the fault of immigrants. Most people ought to be able to see that.'" Lots of wrong people are now taking their lead from te politics and tone of the Euro debate. www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -and-wales

Quote ="Stand-Offish"I don't know many folk that spout anything more dangerous than pub talk. There will always be boneheads who will cause bother. I see nothing more sinister than folk being p/ssed off with unfettered immigration with no corresponding infrastructure improvements. The anger is against the people who allow this and then call the people who object, racists. This is a matter of shocking organisation. It is not the fault of immigrants. Most people ought to be able to see that.'" Lots of wrong people are now taking their lead from te politics and tone of the Euro debate. www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... -and-wales

Good post. There are laws against racism in this country and those found pedalling hatred should be arrested, prosecuted, and dealt with in the strongest possible way under current law.

I think it's also incumbent upon the mainstream media, particularly TV news, to quickly overcome its own level of shock and disbelief at this democratic result and introduce a level of professionalism and neutrality into its approach rather than continue with its pre-vote agenda. As Andrew Neil, one of the few worthy TV commentators currently employed, tweeted today: "Project Fear now wholly-owned subsidiary of pro-Remain media. Seem almost desperate for leave to fail. Gloomy spin on everything".

Finally, back on the subject of racism, I think it's high time that the slur and smear of accusing someone of being racist or xenophobic [uwhen there is clearly no evidence or proof of it[/u, should be brought into the same category as other hate language for which there are consequences. It's important to crush the real racists into the ground, but anti-bigotry with no foundation is itself bigotry and no one has a right to smear others without due cause.