Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government

Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government

The pillock will be telling us next that it's only union affiliated health workers kicking off and taking advantage of the pandemic to further their nasty ways.

Quote ="Durham Giant"Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government'" I think he may be related to Matt Hancock

Quote ="Durham Giant"Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government'" I think he may be related to Matt Hancock

Quote ="Durham Giant"Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government'" That's Just Anecdotal - AKA Fake News - AKA Left Wing Liberal Media - AKA It doesn't fit in with my argument so I'll just dismiss it - AKA Rules don't apply to the people that make the rules PS Sal Spoke to my cousin last night - FWIW It's still a problem

Quote ="Durham Giant"Audience. We don’t have enough PPE Sal Paradise. Oh yes we do. Director of a large NHS trust. Oh no we don’t (. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576 ) Sal Paradise. Oh shut up you are just trying to blame the government'" That's Just Anecdotal - AKA Fake News - AKA Left Wing Liberal Media - AKA It doesn't fit in with my argument so I'll just dismiss it - AKA Rules don't apply to the people that make the rules PS Sal Spoke to my cousin last night - FWIW It's still a problem

I see the lefties are out in force - what I see is workers from private companies kicking off - that is an issue with the management of these companies who have systematically failed to adequately protect their employees and want to blame the government. Its not the government's responsibility to look after the H&S requirements of their personnel.

Even Hancock doesn't have just the one eye in the middle of his head!

Quote ="Sal Paradise"I see the lefties are out in force - what I see is workers from private companies kicking off - that is an issue with the management of these companies who have systematically failed to adequately protect their employees and want to blame the government. Its not the government's responsibility to look after the H&S requirements of their personnel.'" How is the NHS a private company https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576

Quote ="Sal Paradise"I see the lefties are out in force - what I see is workers from private companies kicking off - that is an issue with the management of these companies who have systematically failed to adequately protect their employees and want to blame the government. Its not the government's responsibility to look after the H&S requirements of their personnel.'" How is the NHS a private company https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52319576

There was a clue in the name, it's easy to spot

Word for the day - [icyclocock[/i

Fook, I've done it now.


He's gone to muster his merry band of [ibrownshirts[/i, Flashman, IR80, wotsupcas, et al........

Brownshirt being a fascist, I presume. Am I a real fascist then? Or are you just using a lazy label because I don't agree with all your socialist vitriol?

Have you got a toothbrush moustache?

No, but I do have a beard. Does that qualify me?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... hout-gowns Supplies to run out within hours, so NHS to change advice to tell them to wear aprons when they have run out of gowns. I wonder at what point the deniers will stop embarrassing themselves, I wonder if the deniers are the same ones who were telling us early on that it was no worse than the flu and claiming that it was all media hype.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/ ... hout-gowns Supplies to run out within hours, so NHS to change advice to tell them to wear aprons when they have run out of gowns. I wonder at what point the deniers will stop embarrassing themselves, I wonder if the deniers are the same ones who were telling us early on that it was no worse than the flu and claiming that it was all media hype.

Yup, Grundian being the Grundian...

"The paper's readership is generally on the mainstream left of British political opinion, and its reputation as a platform for liberal and left-wing editorial"

Or that those that were dying just needed a positive outlook and the British bulldog spirit to pull through like good old Boris

My cousins husband who is a 48yr old paramedic and fit as a proverbial butchers dog has been sedated, on a ventilator, upside down to get oxygen to his lungs for 95% of the time, having dyaliss and being fed through alternately a tube in his neck and hand for 11 days now.
If only he was just a "Bit more positive".

Fake news, then?

Perhaps he would be dead now if he didn't have a desire to live? I appreciate these higher level concepts are beyond your limited outlook on the human race.

Why have the NHS when they just need positive thinking classes. I suppose PPE just results in over confidence by the wearers.
We are doing our bit by self isolation to protect the NHS and lives unfortunately the government are not keeping up their end of the bargain. They have even put the supply of PPE being in control as part of the loosening of the stay at home policy. This suggests our liberties are dependent on the Government getting their house in order.

The government have supplied a billion pieces of PPE - within a month!!

Testing that has been a complete mess and the government needs to stick their hands up!!

If you need 100 pieces but are supplied with only 99 you have a problem so regardless of the total supplied it does not meet the demand therefore they put the NHS staff at risk.

You have no idea about my outlook on life
After reading thousands of your opinionated I'm alright Jack posts (your not the worst by some stretch though,) I've more idea about your outlook on life then you on mine.

STILL NO RESPONSE to anyone who pointed out that they are still short of PPE in certain hospitals.

How do you know this?

Single use gowns being reused due to shortage

So what's your solution? You whinge and condemn and criticise and post your smug comments in either wilful or genuine ignorance of the global situation - I'm still not quite sure which.

Bearing in mind the massive ongoing upsurge in global demand from nations and the general public, leading to a global shortage, and the fact many of the main PPE producers were not only in lockdown, they also blocked PPE exports (China, India, South Korea, Japan and others). Put simply - the ENTIRE WORLD suddenly wants PPE by the billion, but suddenly the main producing countries aren't selling it - or have reduced exports massively.

Then take into account the massive upsurge in distribution demand in the UK on a network that simply couldn't cope in terms of volume and pace of demand, even with an existing pandemic stockpile - hence the army and people such as Amazon Logistics coming in to help.

You know one of the reasons gowns are in short supply? Stock was ordered weeks ago, but when it arrived a load had been mislabelled and actually contained masks. To compound this, many of the gowns then failed safety tests. Guess where they came from - yep, China. All ignored by the left, who just blame NHS procurement and the government.

Appeals have already gone out to UK companies to help bridge the shortfall. Further orders have been placed. Everyone is doing their very best but the simple truth is in a global pandemic emergency there are going to be shortages. I'm sorry if you can't handle that unpleasant truth, but there it is.

So what would you have done to secure PPE equipment that NHS procurement and the government haven't done? I'm sure you're full of brilliant ideas...