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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Keep triggering the liberals and sticking it to the lefties. That's what it's all about.'"
Nope, it is about having an opinion and voicing it, just like you do.
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| I see Tim Martin is doing his bit to look after his employees - what a piece of - I see Branson has piped down and has offered to put some serious cash into his company.
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| So, non-essential workers are now being encouraged to go to work to keep the economy ticking over.
Boris's address to the nation on Monday night in reversal.
You nearly couldn't make it up.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"I see Tim Martin is doing his bit to look after his employees - what a piece of poop - I see Branson has piped down and has offered to put some serious cash into his company.'"
When all this is over, I sincerely hope that we hold our treasured billionaire, 'wealth creator' class to account; Mike Ashley, Tim Martin, Phillip Green and Richard Branson have proven themselves to be nothing more than parasites - whilst the heroes in the NHS, Social Care, food supply chain, transport etc - many of whom were, until a few weeks ago, low paid and 'low skilled' - are keeping the country running, and people alive.
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| Quote ="bren2k"When all this is over, I sincerely hope that we hold our treasured billionaire, 'wealth creator' class to account; Mike Ashley, Tim Martin, Phillip Green and Richard Branson have proven themselves to be nothing more than parasites - whilst the heroes in the NHS, Social Care, food supply chain, transport etc - many of whom were, until a few weeks ago, low paid and 'low skilled' - are keeping the country running, and people alive.'"
Amen to that Bren
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| Quote ="bren2k"When all this is over, I sincerely hope that we hold our treasured billionaire, 'wealth creator' class to account; Mike Ashley, Tim Martin, Phillip Green and Richard Branson have proven themselves to be nothing more than parasites - whilst the heroes in the NHS, Social Care, food supply chain, transport etc - many of whom were, until a few weeks ago, low paid and 'low skilled' - are keeping the country running, and people alive.'"
I agree but without the wealth generators and the private sector you don't have the monies to fund the NHS and develop the drugs that keep the country running and people alive. Who do you think is moving the food supply around - who is generating the food - it certainly isn't the public sector. Who is producing the ventilators? Don't class all the public sector in the same boat as a few arrogant low-life's who have a view of capitalism that is completely skewed from reality that is normal everyday life.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"So, non-essential workers are now being encouraged to go to work to keep the economy ticking over.
Boris's address to the nation on Monday night in reversal.
You nearly couldn't make it up.'"
No its not - the message was pretty simple - if you can work from home you should do so - we are closing down non essential retail/leisure activities to stop groups mixing other than that go to work. No ban on travelling to work.
You have been listening to Piers Morgan's clap trap.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"I agree but without the wealth generators and the private sector you don't have the monies to fund the NHS and develop the drugs that keep the country running and people alive. Who do you think is moving the food supply around - who is generating the food - it certainly isn't the public sector. Who is producing the ventilators? Don't class all the public sector in the same boat as a few arrogant low-life's who have a view of capitalism that is completely skewed from reality that is normal everyday life.'"
You must have missed "food supply chain, transport etc" when you read his post.
The point that he was making was that the "wealth creators" are not the ones taking the risk and Branson, Ashley are bothered only about themselves and their own wealth.
The couldnt give a flying feck about us or their staff and as he rightly points out, it's the low paid, working in warehouses, supermarkets etc that are keeping us going not the "Generals" who, as usual, are standing at the back and in no danger whatsoever.
Tim Martin, someone who I've never been too keen on, actually stooped lower, by suggesting that the 40,000 staff that he had laid off could "get a job at Tesco's"
The staff at the local shops and supermarkets are in serious danger of contracting the virus.
Most other businesses have now closed their doors to visitors, postmen & delivery drivers now leave everything on the doorstep, to avoid contact but, those left working in "retail" are in direct contact with the general public, with little or no protection and for minimum wage - probably working less than the 16 hours required to receive the same benefits as those in full time employment.
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| Johnson has got to get a grip. Either we test everyone or, we lockdown completely and this government pay out on their promise to meet 80% of wages.
At the moment, it looking like the government are just trying to wing it.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You must have missed "food supply chain, transport etc" when you read his post.
The point that he was making was that the "wealth creators" are not the ones taking the risk and Branson, Ashley are bothered only about themselves and their own wealth.
The couldnt give a flying feck about us or their staff and as he rightly points out, it's the low paid, working in warehouses, supermarkets etc that are keeping us going not the "Generals" who, as usual, are standing at the back and in no danger whatsoever.
Tim Martin, someone who I've never been too keen on, actually stooped lower, by suggesting that the 40,000 staff that he had laid off could "get a job at Tesco's"
The staff at the local shops and supermarkets are in serious danger of contracting the virus.
Most other businesses have now closed their doors to visitors, postmen & delivery drivers now leave everything on the doorstep, to avoid contact but, those left working in "retail" are in direct contact with the general public, with little or no protection and for minimum wage - probably working less than the 16 hours required to receive the same benefits as those in full time employment.'"
Fair point - my misunderstanding
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"No its not - the message was pretty simple - if you can work from home you should do so - we are closing down non essential retail/leisure activities to stop groups mixing other than that go to work. No ban on travelling to work.
You have been listening to Piers Morgan's clap trap.'"
I've just come off a job of 300 contractors.
30 bodies crammed in a small canteen room in some cases.
The job is continuing unabated.
Is that acceptable to you?
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I've just come off a job of 300 contractors.
30 bodies crammed in a small canteen room in some cases.
The job is continuing unabated.
Is that acceptable to you?'"
No but could the job be made safer - i.e. more portakabins for breaks etc. if so crack on
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"No but could the job be made safer - i.e. more portakabins for breaks etc. if so crack on'"
It could but it hadn't happened up to 2 hours ago.
At least Sturgeon has been definitive as opposed to the wetness of Hancock and the other limp cabinet colleagues they keep wheeling out.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"if so crack on'"
And if one of the people who is 'cracking on' directly or indirectly infects someone you love, that's still ok?
The Govt have utterly bodged their attempt at lockdown - and it was done 2 weeks too late and in a half-ar5ed way - such that we are now being criticised the world over, and contributing to Europe being the epicentre of infection; whilst China, Korea and other countries who got ahead of it much sooner, are coming out the other side.
We are led by donkeys - it's alarming.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"I've just come off a job of 300 contractors.
30 bodies crammed in a small canteen room in some cases.
The job is continuing unabated.
Is that acceptable to you?'"
So you are just as bad as the 300 then by this post?
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"So you are just as bad as the 300 then by this post?'"
The only bad thing is that it's happening, that's the reality.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"No but could the job be made safer - i.e. more portakabins for breaks etc. if so crack on'"
Correct, i am a mechanical and electrical subcontractor mainly in construction. We have 2 main contracts , my bloke are on lockdown on one site. The management at that site have made no attempt to address the situation. I believe they are using this situation to hide the fact that they are way behind programme ,and have no chance of meeting the handover date. The other site we are on the site manager has instructed staff to have lunch and tea break onsite as opposed to the canteen. It’s a 9 storey apartment block. He has limited the amount of people working on each floor, making sure ample space between them. I have made it clear to my blokes if they feel it’s not safe come away. They are pleased with everything that’s going on at that site, so to close that down would be a mistake.
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"Johnson has got to get a grip. Either we test everyone or, we lockdown completely and this government pay out on their promise to meet 80% of wages.
At the moment, it looking like the government are just trying to wing it.'"
We will test everyone when we have a test that's better than the one now. That process is likely to go for years to determine the effectiveness of any vaccine we develop. I know of at least on site that's being considered for this.
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| And it would all be SO much better under Cringebin, he would have used a few loaves and some aloe vera and created a vaccine by combining them with the sweat, blood and tears of former miners...
some people need to have a serious word with themselves politicising this situation.
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| Quote ="IR80"And it would all be SO much better under Cringebin, he would have used a few loaves and some aloe vera and created a vaccine by combining them with the sweat of the former miners...
some people need to have a serious word with themselves politicising this situation.'"
It is literally a political situation.
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| And here we go again,
The trousering tories ...........
Sunis’s £300 billion Corporate Slush Fund, coupled with his £100 billion bung to the Tory vote base.
Loads a Monay
Fill yer boots
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| Quote ="DHM"It is literally a political situation.'"
no, it is actually literally NOT political, I note you haven't commented how it would be better under a different political party.
It is embarassing to read "intelligent" posters banging the same old drum.
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| Quote ="IR80"no, it is actually literally NOT political, I note you haven't commented how it would be better under a different political party.
It is embarassing to read "intelligent" posters banging the same old drum.'"
I haven't posted on here in years. Just remembered why.
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| Quote ="DHM"I haven't posted on here in years. Just remembered why.'"
because you don't like reasoned discussion when people don't agree with you?
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| Quote ="DHM"We will test everyone when we have a test that's better than the one now. That process is likely to go for years to determine the effectiveness of any vaccine we develop. I know of at least on site that's being considered for this.'"
According to the Guardian, they have a self test thingymibob almost ready to roll out. Plus the 80% of pay portal at HMRC should be ready sometime in April for employers to claim back what they have paid out, that is unless you happen to own Wetherspoons.
To be fair to this Tory government (please excuse the use of Tory and fairness in the same sentence) they do appear to be having a crack at it, albeit in a sort of "today's good idea" sort of way.
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