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| I think that we need a leader, like Mrs May.
Someone with vision and the ability to pull everyone together.
Is Nigel Wood still available
We could involve the Canadians and French, just to "help the cause"
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"The top option is leave with no deal. May’s leave deal, negotiated over the last two years, has been voted down 3 times by mp’s and has virtually no support from the public, so that is off the table. What other leave options do you want?
The leave campaign have been found guilty of committing electoral fraud in the 2016 referendum. As such the result needs to be ignored.'"
I'll have that then.
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| Quote ="Cokey"I'll have that then.
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This is a genuine question, with no agenda; why? What do you think leaving with no deal looks like, and what effects will it have on our economy?
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| Quote ="bren2k"This is a genuine question, with no agenda; why? What do you think leaving with no deal looks like, and what effects will it have on our economy?'"
No one knows exactly,but i know what it looks like being in the EU,and i don't like it.
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| Quote ="Cokey"No one knows exactly,but i know what it looks like being in the EU,and i don't like it.'"
Please explain what you don't like...
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| Quote ="Cokey"No one knows exactly,but i know what it looks like being in the EU,and i don't like it.'"
So if you don't know what leaving with no deal looks like, or what effect it will have on the economy, why are you advocating it? And do you think it will make your life better than it is now?
Same question about the EU I guess - what effects of being an EU member state have a negative impact on your life?
I'm not having a go at you btw - genuinely interested in the answers.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Please explain what you don't like...'"
No.
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| Quote ="bren2k"So if you don't know what leaving with no deal looks like, or what effect it will have on the economy, why are you advocating it? And do you think it will make your life better than it is now?
[uSame question about the EU I guess[/u - what effects of being an EU member state have a negative impact on your life?
I'm not having a go at you btw - genuinely interested in the answers.'"
There you go then.
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| Quote ="Cokey"No.'"
Fair enough, says everything about you.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"Fair enough, says everything about you.'"
It does. It say's i don't have to explain myself to anybody.
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Sorry guy's,this will be might last post on this thread....Can't be doing with all the lefties.
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Sorry guy's,this will be might last post on this thread....Can't be doing with all the lefties.
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| Quote ="Cokey"It does. It say's i don't have to explain myself to anybody.'"
How embarrassing. You are not able. You will be a sad loss with your erudite debate.
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| Quote ="Cokey"It does. It say's i don't have to explain myself to anybody.'"
No, it says you are not prepared to have a conversation and have your opinions challenged. Why do you even bother coming on the site...
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"No, it says you are not prepatwd to have a conversation and have your opinions challenged. Why do you even bother coming on the site...'"
Maybe I was a bit hasty, if so i apologise.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Maybe I was a bit hasty, if so i apologise.'"
How embarrassing. You are not able.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"No, it says you are not prepared to have a conversation and have your opinions challenged. Why do you even bother coming on the site...'"
Because it's a vote that doesn't work,so i gave my opinion on what i think,end of.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Because it's a vote that doesn't work,so i gave my opinion on what i think,end of.'"
With no reasoning, but hey, Leigh fans are not the most intelligent in the game.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"[uWith no reasoning,[/u but hey, Leigh fans are not the most intelligent in the game.'"
Is it mandatory to do so Garby?
BTW - You come across like a bit of a thicko yourself old bean,but No need for the insult is there Garby, just because you've lost a round. Give up laddie.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Is it mandatory to do so Garby?
BTW - You come across like a bit of a thicko yourself old bean,but No need for the insult is there Garby, just because you've lost a round. Give up laddie.'"
laddie?
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"laddie?
Sums me up.'"
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you?
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| Quote ="bren2k"This is a genuine question, with no agenda; why? What do you think leaving with no deal looks like, and what effects will it have on our economy?'"
And is no deal even an end result?
When you listen to some ardent brexiteers, they seem to forget the fact that even if we leave the EU on the 12th with no deal, the EU will continue to exist, and will still be a major trading bloc on our doorstep.
At some stage, we will need some sort of deal with the EU. Don't really understand why some people advocate leaving before we reach any agreement with them.
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| The strange thing about all of this is that if we treated the 2017 GE as a referendum, the Tories would be out, as they only got 42% of the vote.
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| Surely Brexit will be put on hold now.
The 2016 referndum produced a majority of 1.27m to Leave. That majority now does not exist. From January 19th 2019 there is now a Remain majority.
As we now know the benefits of Leaving the EU which we were told about during the referendum campaign are untrue. From the "Leave" meeting I attended the two MP's told us all about the Free Trade Deal which would simply continue as now due to the EU needing us more than we need them. Also we wouldn't pay a penny more to the EU from the day we Leave. You've heard all the rest.
Leave won the referndum due largely to the claims made which were untrue. The two MP's which told us all those lies are now actively demanding a "No Deal" exit.
No wonder trust in politicians has never been lower.
Either another referendum or simply revoke article 50.
There is now no Majority to Leave, they therefore have no mandate to Leave.
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| Quote ="silver2"The strange thing about all of this is that if we treated the 2017 GE as a referendum, the Tories would be out, as they only got 42% of the vote.'"
You could say that about most of the governments that we've had over the last 100+ years and if you take account of the poor turn out at some elections, the picture is bleaker still.
Even in the Brexit referendum, around 30% of those eligible to cast a vote either didn't want to or, couldn't be bothered, a bit like Corbyn during the referendum
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