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| Quote ="Sheldon""Maintaining an important relationship with the United States does not require the pomp and ceremony of a state visit. It is disappointing that the prime minister has again opted to kowtow to this US administration.
"I would welcome a meeting with President Trump to discuss all matters of interest."'"
Also Jeremy Corbyn, "I will respect the result of the EU Referendum"
The words oozing out of his mouth only reflect the latest strategic orders from Labour HQ. I haven't believed a word he says since...well since someone starting pressing his suits.
I suppose every Prime Minister has 'kowtowed' to the government of every state visit received by the Queen, then? Yer know, those nasty Dutch putting the pressure on lost October. Or those devious Spanish leaning on 'er Maj back in July 17?
I look forward to chuckling at the unwashed jobless masses and their utterly pointless protests over someone else's leader.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"To be fair, it’s well known around here that Cronus is a right wing edl sub reader. No need to prove it'"
Ruune, many have tried to get a rise out of me on here, and all have failed. You're like a poor man's tigertot. And that's a pretty low base to start from.
Why would I have any interest in the EDL? I have a full head of hair for a start.
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| What makes me laugh is the sun readers who claim Corbyn loves the ira forget to mention that Maggie thatcher was having daily meetings with them at the same time it’s just that she did it cloak and dagger lmao so sorry it can’t be true cos the sun didn’t print it
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"What makes me laugh is the sun readers who claim Corbyn loves the ira forget to mention that Maggie thatcher was having daily meetings with them at the same time it’s just that she did it cloak and dagger lmao so sorry it can’t be true cos the sun didn’t print it'"
Yes, because the government carrying out confidential talks is EXACTLY the same thing as marching and protesting alongside the IRA to "show solidarity", or meeting with the IRA/Sinn Fein many times during the 70s/80s or advocating the end of British rule in NI, or inviting 2 convicted IRA members to the Commons only 2 weeks after the Brighton bombing, or BEING ARRESTED demonstrating outside the trial of IRA killer Patrick Maghee (convicted for the murder of 5 people), or for being "happy to commemorate those who died fighting for an independent Ireland" following Loughgall, etc..etc..etc...
BTW, we all know talks went on behind the scenes. You're not gonna score any points by mentioning that widely known fact.
And still, so many witless and naive mugs stick their fingers in their ears and pretend none of this happened and these aren't his views. Or that he's "changed". More fool them if he ever gets into No.10.
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| Quote ="MGarbutt1986"https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48070983
more Labour tery'"
Commons Speaker John Bercow and Liberal Democrat leader Sir Vince Cable have already declined to attend the dinner.
Put the vodka down Standee/PCollinson/loads of other banned usernames
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| Quote ="Cronus"Yes, because the government carrying out confidential talks is EXACTLY the same thing as marching and protesting alongside the IRA to "show solidarity", or meeting with the IRA/Sinn Fein many times during the 70s/80s or advocating the end of British rule in NI, or inviting 2 convicted IRA members to the Commons only 2 weeks after the Brighton bombing, or BEING ARRESTED demonstrating outside the trial of IRA killer Patrick Maghee (convicted for the murder of 5 people), or for being "happy to commemorate those who died fighting for an independent Ireland" following Loughgall, etc..etc..etc...
BTW, we all know talks went on behind the scenes. You're not gonna score any points by mentioning that widely known fact.
And still, so many witless and naive mugs stick their fingers in their ears and pretend none of this happened and these aren't his views. Or that he's "changed". More fool them if he ever gets into No.10.
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At least he’d stop the NHS getting sold off, swings and roundabouts.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"At least he’d stop the NHS getting sold off, swings and roundabouts.'"
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| Quote ="Cronus"If that's the standard of debate I'm off to get a drink.
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The absolute clown that is Chris Grayling continues to waste millions of pounds of taxpayers money through his shear incompetence.
Can anyone explain why Diane Abbott, who isn’t even in the serving government, has a 13 page thread about her, yet the worst performing minister we’ve ever had doesn’t even get a mention?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48063672
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Can anyone explain why Diane Abbott, who isn’t even in the serving government, has a 13 page thread about her, yet the worst performing minister we’ve ever had doesn’t even get a mention?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48063672
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Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"The absolute clown that is Chris Grayling continues to waste millions of pounds of taxpayers money through his shear incompetence.
Can anyone explain why Diane Abbott, who isn’t even in the serving government, has a 13 page thread about her, yet the worst performing minister we’ve ever had doesn’t even get a mention?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48063672'"
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Can anyone explain why Diane Abbott, who isn’t even in the serving government, has a 13 page thread about her, yet the worst performing minister we’ve ever had doesn’t even get a mention?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48063672'"
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| Quote ="Cronus"Ruune, many have tried to get a rise out of me on here, and all have failed. You're like a poor man's tigertot. And that's a pretty low base to start from.
Why would I have any interest in the EDL? I have a full head of hair for a start.'"
I thought you were joining them if Brexit was overturned.
Maybe a trip to the Turkish Barber's is still in order ?
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| Quote ="Cronus" a poor man's tigertot. '"
Is infinitely preferable to any right-wing nutjob.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Is infinitely preferable to any right-wing nutjob.'"
As opposed to a left wing nut job? Both dangerous IMO
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| Quote ="Cronus"Ruune, many have tried to get a rise out of me on here, and all have failed. You're like a poor man's tigertot. And that's a pretty low base to start from.
Why would I have any interest in the EDL? I have a full head of hair for a start.'"
Not trying to get a rise out of you dude. It’s just you have history for talking rubbish when you claimed it’s easy for a pilot with no training to fly a plane they have never flown before into a landmark like the twin towers
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Not trying to get a rise out of you dude. It’s just you have history for talking rubbish when you claimed it’s easy for a pilot with no training to fly a plane they have never flown before into a landmark like the twin towers'"
Aaah are you the chap with the made-up pilot friend who said it would be impossible for even an experienced pilot to hit the towers?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"I thought you were joining them if Brexit was overturned.
Maybe a trip to the Turkish Barber's is still in order ?'"
Voting to the right as a protest vote if Brexit is revoked is a long way from joining an unpleasant and frankly ridiculous mob like the EDL.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Is infinitely preferable to any right-wing nutjob.'"
So says the rabid left-wing nut-job.
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"Not trying to get a rise out of you dude. It’s just you have history for talking rubbish when you claimed it’s easy for a pilot with no training to fly a plane they have never flown before into a landmark like the twin towers'"
Don't get him started on the aviation industry ffs!
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Don't get him started on the aviation industry ffs!'"
Quite. And how dare Bullseye wax lyrical on the NHS or others on their fields of knowledge. I also recall we've heard from folk in education and construction on here, amongst others. God forbid anyone should discuss a field they are experienced and knowledgeable in, eh?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Voting to the right as a protest vote if Brexit is revoked is a long way from joining an unpleasant and frankly ridiculous mob like the EDL.'"
Remember what you have said about them, something that we both agree on.
The dreaded second referendum looks ever more likely and we look like remaining in Brexit limbo for some little while.
My views on Brexit are well documented but, a second referendum to solve the impasse is just bizarre.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Don't get him started on the aviation industry ffs!'"
He did though. He claimed anyone could fly a plane into the twin towers with no training. Thing is my best mate is a pilot, now for Qantas Claims that it would be 100% impossible for someone who trained in a crop spraying plane with no experience of a commercial jet liner to pull it off. But hey. He’s obviously lying and Cronus knows best
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"He did though. He claimed anyone could fly a plane into the twin towers with no training. Thing is my best mate is a pilot, now for Qantas Claims that it would be 100% impossible for someone who trained in a crop spraying plane with no experience of a commercial jet liner to pull it off. But hey. He’s obviously lying and Cronus knows best'"
He's your 'best' mate now is he? Even my 5 year old has grown out of pretend friends.
So, Ruuuune, tell me, if it wasn't the hijackers, who was it? Suicidal expert pilots? Remote controlled aircraft? (because flying an aircraft by remote control would be so much easier, obviously) Missiles with holographic wings? Drones? Mass hysteria? And what happened to the real aircraft and passengers? Take your tin foil hat off and enlighten us, because if you're so certain it wasn't the hijackers, you must know what it was.
Anyway, get yer facts right. They had quite a bit of training and had logged hundreds of hours. Some had many hundreds of hours in simulators (including B737 and B767), and some held commercial pilots licences. They didn't need be any good at take-off, landing, or most of the complexities of flying. To achieve their mission they simply needed to navigate to their target and descend into it. It was a perfectly clear day with calm conditions and visibility probably over 50 miles at altitude.
Yes, there are some questions over controlling the aircraft at high speed at fairly low altitude, but for every pilot who insists it can't be done, there are plenty who say it can. There are forums full of squabbling pilots to this day (don't bother, the technicalities are probably beyond you). Either way, you know what, I reckon it can be done simply because it was.
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| Quote ="Cronus"He's your 'best' mate now is he? Even my 5 year old has grown out of pretend friends.
So, Ruuuune, tell me, if it wasn't the hijackers, who was it? Suicidal expert pilots? Remote controlled aircraft? (because flying an aircraft by remote control would be so much easier, obviously) Missiles with holographic wings? Drones? Mass hysteria? And what happened to the real aircraft and passengers? Take your tin foil hat off and enlighten us, because if you're so certain it wasn't the hijackers, you must know what it was.
Anyway, get yer facts right. They had quite a bit of training and had logged hundreds of hours. Some had many hundreds of hours in simulators (including B737 and B767), and some held commercial pilots licences. They didn't need be any good at take-off, landing, or most of the complexities of flying. To achieve their mission they simply needed to navigate to their target and descend into it. It was a perfectly clear day with calm conditions and visibility probably over 50 miles at altitude.
Yes, there are some questions over controlling the aircraft at high speed at fairly low altitude, but for every pilot who insists it can't be done, there are plenty who say it can. There are forums full of squabbling pilots to this day (don't bother, the technicalities are probably beyond you). Either way, you know what, I reckon it can be done simply because it was.
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He is my best mate yeah. With over 10,000 flying hours since he qualified. Before I go any further with replaying to your post, how many flying hours do you have as a commercial airline pilot?
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| Quote ="Ruune Rebellion"He is my best mate yeah. With over 10,000 flying hours since he qualified. Before I go any further with replaying to your post, how many flying hours do you have as a commercial airline pilot?'"
How many do you have?
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| I would suggest that to take the position that "it can't be done" about events that were televised live as they de facto were done, is challenged in the logic department.
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