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| Well, I've always suggested that the BBC are reasonably fair in their broadcasting, especially around the time of a general election.
However, following the QT special on Friday, the BBC decided to remove the laughter that accompanied a question to Boris "liar" Johnson during the QT programme.
Instead of the laughter from the audience, the question now just has applause and portrayed the moment in a completely different light to the "real thing".
It's bloody outrageous that this can happen in the UK.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Well, I've always suggested that the BBC are reasonably fair in their broadcasting, especially around the time of a general election.
However, following the QT special on Friday, the BBC decided to remove the laughter that accompanied a question to Boris "liar" Johnson during the QT programme.
Instead of the laughter from the audience, the question now just has applause and portrayed the moment in a completely different light to the "real thing".
It's bloody outrageous that this can happen in the UK.
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Get a grip. It's a montage for the 1.00 news. Editing interviews and footage and getting to the pertinent moments happens with EVERY SINGLE NEWS BULLETIN you ever see. It saves precious airtime within strictly time-limited bulletins, in case you're struggling.
Anyway, any reasonably intelligent person can tell it's been edited by the sudden applause that appears when the shot cuts to Johnson. It's patently, clearly obvious. But I guess this is the left we're dealing with.
There was scorn and laughter directed at every leader. Where is your outrage none of that has been re-broadcast? Nope, didn't think so.
I wonder if anyone has done a survey on the recent impact of the whining snowflake left on the NHS...heart attacks and strokes must be going through the roof.
Pathetic.
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Get a grip. It's a montage for the 1.00 news. Editing interviews and footage and getting to the pertinent moments happens with EVERY SINGLE NEWS BULLETIN you ever see. It saves precious airtime within strictly time-limited bulletins, in case you're struggling.
Anyway, any reasonably intelligent person can tell it's been edited by the sudden applause that appears when the shot cuts to Johnson. It's patently, clearly obvious. But I guess this is the left we're dealing with.
There was scorn and laughter directed at every leader. Where is your outrage none of that has been re-broadcast? Nope, didn't think so.
I wonder if anyone has done a survey on the recent impact of the whining snowflake left on the NHS...heart attacks and strokes must be going through the roof.
Pathetic.'"
So, the major of ridicule of Boris "lying" Johnson was changed from laughter to applause.
Editing is never a problem, after all, they were reporting on a 2 hour event and compressing it to 30 seconds.
However, the way in which this particular moment, the very one which the BBC chose to include, was changed, made it look like the masses were cheering our "beloved" leader, when, in fact, they were laughing at someone who cant open his mouth with out bending the truth to breaking point or, ignoring it all together - you will have seen the "more Tory lies" thread.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"So, the major of ridicule of Boris "lying" Johnson was changed from laughter to applause.
Editing is never a problem, after all, they were reporting on a 2 hour event and compressing it to 30 seconds.
However, the way in which this particular moment, the very one which the BBC chose to include, was changed, made it look like the masses were cheering our "beloved" leader, when, in fact, they were laughing at someone who cant open his mouth with out bending the truth to breaking point or, ignoring it all together - you will have seen the "more Tory lies" thread.
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Nothing was 'changed'. The middle second or so was cut for brevity. You're trying to make out the audience track has been replaced. It hasn't. They cut the first "I think it's...". This sort of editing happens in every single news report you ever see. But because you're desperate for pro-Tory conspiracy and you believe everything you see on ter, you've convinced yourself it's politically-led.
I don't deny there's a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment of laughter not in the final cut - but tell me, were the moments of scorn and laughter directed at the other leaders included? Are you 'outraged' at that?
It's pathetic. This entire argument is pathetic. This thread is pathetic. The hordes of crying, wailing 'Anyone But the Tories' are pathetic. In fact, it's better than that, it's hilarious.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Nothing was 'changed'. The middle second or so was cut for brevity. You're trying to make out the audience track has been replaced. It hasn't. They cut the first "I think it's...". This sort of editing happens in every single news report you ever see. But because you're desperate for pro-Tory conspiracy and you believe everything you see on ter, you've convinced yourself it's politically-led.
I don't deny there's a 'blink and you'll miss it' moment of laughter not in the final cut - but tell me, were the moments of scorn and laughter directed at the other leaders included? Are you 'outraged' at that?
It's pathetic. This entire argument is pathetic. This thread is pathetic. The hordes of crying, wailing 'Anyone But the Tories' are pathetic. In fact, it's better than that, it's hilarious.
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Looks like you've lost another argument
As I said, this was THE big moment of the night against Johnson when the majority of the audience couldn't hide their contempt, which had been blanked out in subsequent broadcasts.
Just focus on the smiling happy faces as the leader goes by - remind you of anything - it's certainly a long way balanced reporting.
I dont know whether it is politically led but, it isn't right and you are bright enough to know this.
Johnson is getting away with political murder, with NOBODY really prepared to put him under proper scrutiny.
He was not controlled properly in the ITV debate, continually over running and if ever he actually answers a question, instead of trotting out pre rehed soundbites, he is found SEVERELY lacking and his mistakes, which are numerous are laughed off as "bumbling Boris" and " he always does that sort of thing, it's just his way".
You will have noticed that, despite my politics being left of centre, I'm prepared to call out both sides and I've noticed that others are not.
If calling someone "snowflake" gives you a sense of importance, good on ya but, I think that I may be old enough to pre date this particular insult.
He's supposed to be LEADING the country and not back in the school playground
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Looks like you've lost another argument
As I said, this was THE big moment of the night against Johnson when the majority of the audience couldn't hide their contempt, which had been blanked out in subsequent broadcasts.
Just focus on the smiling happy faces as the leader goes by - remind you of anything - it's certainly a long way balanced reporting.
I dont know whether it is politically led but, it isn't right and you are bright enough to know this.
Johnson is getting away with political murder, with NOBODY really prepared to put him under proper scrutiny.
He was not controlled properly in the ITV debate, continually over running and if ever he actually answers a question, instead of trotting out pre rehed soundbites, he is found SEVERELY lacking and his mistakes, which are numerous are laughed off as "bumbling Boris" and " he always does that sort of thing, it's just his way".
You will have noticed that, despite my politics being left of centre, I'm prepared to call out both sides and I've noticed that others are not.
If calling someone "snowflake" gives you a sense of importance, good on ya but, I think that I may be old enough to pre date this particular insult.
He's supposed to be LEADING the country and not back in the school playground'"
If you think this was "THE big issue of the night" then there isn't much hope for you. You've allowed yourself to be dragged to the ter schoolyard level of debate. Half a second where a few people laugh at Johnson is NOT the big issue. We've seen it plenty of times - he's been heckled and mocked plenty of times. You are part of the reason true debate has gone down the toilet.
I've said before I think these TV 'debates' are terrible. None of the leaders did well the other night except Sturgeon, who is always a good speaker. All came off badly in the face of some challenging moments from the audience, including laughter. They ALL avoid answering questions by trotting out pre-prepared soundbites and struggle when called out. Johnson does it, Corbyn does it, Swinson does it. You know that.
But yes, this whole thing is pathetic. It's laughable. You're all whiney snowflakes. There simply is no other way to put it.
Look, I can add smilies too. There, there.
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The most important thing must be the engineered audience, surely? Ryan Jacobsz, Conservative activist, has appeared on QT 4 times in as many years, and has been able to ask, you guessed it, 4 questions, despite the BBC recommending audience members should appear once every 10 years.
https://dorseteye.com/ryan-jacobz-the-t ... enough-of/
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https://dorseteye.com/ryan-jacobz-the-t ... enough-of/
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| Which channel managed to replace the clip of our PM laying his wreath at the cenotaph upside down with one filmed from when he was the foreign secretary.
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| Got to love The Sin Bin, a Labour love fest.
Politics of hate, jealousy abound.
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| Quote ="IR80"Got to love The Sin Bin, a Labour love fest.
Politics of hate, jealousy abound.'"
Oh, right, nothing actually happened
A national TV station should NOT be able change it's broadcast to change the actions of any politician.
This is creative editing, which just shouldn't be possible.
They are supposed to report events as they happen and not change them to suit someone's agenda and any level headed person would ask, why ?
Or are you happy to be spoon fed lies, just to keep you happy.
Have a listen to Pills and Soap by Elvis Costello, which was banned upon release for being too political.
Listen carefully to the lyrics though and see if you can work out the message.
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It seems that the BBC is now admitting a mistake on their editing of Johnson:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50546115
Humble pie Cronus & Sal ?
Despite being accused of paranoia and snowflake tendencies, sometimes, it's right to call these people out and we shouldn't have to provoke media outlets like the BBC into being balanced and honest.
The worrying thin is that even a fool like me could spot this but, how many more are there.
We all know about the "doctored" wreath laying at the cenotaph because "someone" doesn't know up from down but, how many more and when will the BBC love in with Johnson cease.
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It seems that the BBC is now admitting a mistake on their editing of Johnson:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50546115
Humble pie Cronus & Sal ?
Despite being accused of paranoia and snowflake tendencies, sometimes, it's right to call these people out and we shouldn't have to provoke media outlets like the BBC into being balanced and honest.
The worrying thin is that even a fool like me could spot this but, how many more are there.
We all know about the "doctored" wreath laying at the cenotaph because "someone" doesn't know up from down but, how many more and when will the BBC love in with Johnson cease.
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Quote ="wrencat1873"It seems that the BBC is now admitting a mistake on their editing of Johnson:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50546115
Humble pie Cronus & Sal ?
Despite being accused of paranoia and snowflake tendencies, sometimes, it's right to call these people out and we shouldn't have to provoke media outlets like the BBC into being balanced and honest.
The worrying thin is that even a fool like me could spot this but, how many more are there.
We all know about the "doctored" wreath laying at the cenotaph because "someone" doesn't know up from down but, how many more and when will the BBC love in with Johnson cease.'"
Not in the slightest. That's just a typical insincere and very lame, "a few people on social media are having a whinge so we'd better say something" statement. They make this very clear by not actually saying sorry, which is surprisingly brave of the BBC.
I guarantee the people concerned at the BBC are rolling their eyes and muttering, "for feck's sake do people whinge about EVERYTHING?" Yes. Yes they do. They're called liberal snowflakes and they whinge, cry, virtue signal and moan until they get a reaction. And if they don't get a reaction they do their best to shut you down. And if they don't get that...well they have tantrums and cry and everyone points and laughs.
As the BBC said, it was edited for timing purposes, which is exactly what I said and was patently obvious to anyone with more than half a brain. It's only a mistake if you think there was an issue in the first place. That half a second means nothing. Did anyone bother to see if the moments of scorn and laughter directed at Corbyn, Swinson, Sturgeon and Farage were repeated? Probably not because no one else gives a sht about pointless stuff.
But keep pointing out the big bad conspiracy so I can also roll my eyes and chuckle at you.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-50546115
Humble pie Cronus & Sal ?
Despite being accused of paranoia and snowflake tendencies, sometimes, it's right to call these people out and we shouldn't have to provoke media outlets like the BBC into being balanced and honest.
The worrying thin is that even a fool like me could spot this but, how many more are there.
We all know about the "doctored" wreath laying at the cenotaph because "someone" doesn't know up from down but, how many more and when will the BBC love in with Johnson cease.'"
Not in the slightest. That's just a typical insincere and very lame, "a few people on social media are having a whinge so we'd better say something" statement. They make this very clear by not actually saying sorry, which is surprisingly brave of the BBC.
I guarantee the people concerned at the BBC are rolling their eyes and muttering, "for feck's sake do people whinge about EVERYTHING?" Yes. Yes they do. They're called liberal snowflakes and they whinge, cry, virtue signal and moan until they get a reaction. And if they don't get a reaction they do their best to shut you down. And if they don't get that...well they have tantrums and cry and everyone points and laughs.
As the BBC said, it was edited for timing purposes, which is exactly what I said and was patently obvious to anyone with more than half a brain. It's only a mistake if you think there was an issue in the first place. That half a second means nothing. Did anyone bother to see if the moments of scorn and laughter directed at Corbyn, Swinson, Sturgeon and Farage were repeated? Probably not because no one else gives a sht about pointless stuff.
But keep pointing out the big bad conspiracy so I can also roll my eyes and chuckle at you.
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| Big fan of the word snowflake is our Cronus. Let's hope we don't come up cross any examples of him being a big cry baby then, as its often conservatives who are the biggest.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Big fan of the word snowflake is our Cronus. Let's hope we don't come up cross any examples of him being a big cry baby then, as its often conservatives who are the biggest.'"
Flashman fighting off the [iflakes[/i, Faragesque.
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Well, it'll take more than the mob on here to get a reaction.
Unfortunately I'm surrounded by them on here. This very thread proves the point.
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| As near as Flashman will come to frame-flipping - positioning the bigot as the actual victim.
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| Quote ="Cronus"Not in the slightest. That's just a typical insincere and very lame, "a few people on social media are having a whinge so we'd better say something" statement. They make this very clear by not actually saying sorry, which is surprisingly brave of the BBC.
I guarantee the people concerned at the BBC are rolling their eyes and muttering, "for feck's sake do people whinge about EVERYTHING?" Yes. Yes they do. They're called liberal snowflakes and they whinge, cry, virtue signal and moan until they get a reaction. And if they don't get a reaction they do their best to shut you down. And if they don't get that...well they have tantrums and cry and everyone points and laughs.
As the BBC said, it was edited for timing purposes, which is exactly what I said and was patently obvious to anyone with more than half a brain. It's only a mistake if you think there was an issue in the first place. That half a second means nothing. Did anyone bother to see if the moments of scorn and laughter directed at Corbyn, Swinson, Sturgeon and Farage were repeated? Probably not because no one else gives a sht about pointless stuff.
But keep pointing out the big bad conspiracy so I can also roll my eyes and chuckle at you.
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So, by not apologising but, saying that "it was a mistake" would seem to suggest that their act was in fact deliberate.
Also, in changing to laying of the wreath upside down by 2our leader" and then using old footage to correct HIS mistake, are they ensuring that respect is duly paid to those who we were remembering or, protecting a bumbling Prime Minister, who doesn't know up from down.
If these ythins took place in communist Russia or China, the right wing would be having a bloody field day but, nah, nothing to see here.
Definitely no political bias or trying hard not to damage Boris - get a grip man - you are like a one eyed Wigan fan, who can never see any wrong by his team.
Yours Snowflake
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"So, by not apologising but, saying that "it was a mistake" would seem to suggest that their act was in fact deliberate.'"
Yes, it was deliberate, in order to trim a very short news bulletin - I think we established that. It's only a "mistake" if you're desperately looking for conspiracy.
You still haven't answered - were the moments of laughter and scorn directed at Corbyn, Swinson, Sturgeon and Farage included in the 1.00 news bulletin? If they include one, they need to include them all, surely - or it wouldn't be balanced.
People laughed at Corbyn. I haven't seen those moments repeated anywhere, and guess what, I'm not crying about. I actually don't give a toss - but watching you lot so wound up is brilliant.
Quote Also, in changing to laying of the wreath upside down by 2our leader" and then using old footage to correct HIS mistake, are they ensuring that respect is duly paid to those who we were remembering or, protecting a bumbling Prime Minister, who doesn't know up from down.
If these ythins took place in communist Russia or China, the right wing would be having a bloody field day but, nah, nothing to see here.
Definitely no political bias or trying hard not to damage Boris - get a grip man - you are like a one eyed Wigan fan, who can never see any wrong by his team.
Yours Snowflake
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It's all a CONSPIRACEH a tell thee
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Loony lefty bitterness - no cure for that I'm afraid.
You've STILL not answered the question: were the moments of laughter and scorn directed at Corbyn, Swinson, Sturgeon and Farage included in the "controversial" 1.00 news bulletin?
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| Quote ="Cronus"Loony lefty bitterness - no cure for that I'm afraid.
You've STILL not answered the question: were the moments of laughter and scorn directed at Corbyn, Swinson, Sturgeon and Farage included in the "controversial" 1.00 news bulletin?'"
You miss the point, again.
The editing of the particular clip, when Johnson was asked about Trust, was the moment of his questioning.
Sure there were other moments of discomfort for Johnson. In fact, he seems to be trying to avoid TV debates now
However, the laughter from a "diverse" audience, was quite interesting.
No matter, as I have previously alluded to, the result of this election and it's consequences already seem to be done and dusted and you will still be saying, "Boris is always like that, it's his way" as the lies and mistakes continue to rack up, just as "no deal" and a further bout of austerity kick us in the teeth again.
If you are brave enough to open both eyes, you have a better chance of seeing what is right in front of you.
I should be pleased with the promotion from Snowflake to "loony lefty bitterness", it's still someway to fall to right wing xenophobia.(see Johnson and Farage) they'll continue having great fun playing footsie under the desk at no 10.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"You miss the point, again.
The editing of the particular clip, when Johnson was asked about Trust, was the moment of his questioning.
Sure there were other moments of discomfort for Johnson. In fact, he seems to be trying to avoid TV debates now
However, the laughter from a "diverse" audience, was quite interesting.
No matter, as I have previously alluded to, the result of this election and it's consequences already seem to be done and dusted and you will still be saying, "Boris is always like that, it's his way" as the lies and mistakes continue to rack up, just as "no deal" and a further bout of austerity kick us in the teeth again.
If you are brave enough to open both eyes, you have a better chance of seeing what is right in front of you.
I should be pleased with the promotion from Snowflake to "loony lefty bitterness", it's still someway to fall to right wing xenophobia.(see Johnson and Farage) they'll continue having great fun playing footsie under the desk at no 10.'"
Nope, still didn't answer the question.
And then you talk about "opening both eyes".
Deary me
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| Quote ="Cronus"Nope, still didn't answer the question.
And then you talk about "opening both eyes".
Deary me
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By god, you're hard to please.
The other (many) moments of laughter from the debate on Friday, have not been edited out and replaced with applause when clip were shown for a second time.
It's not supposed to be "you've been framed", although there is one politician who has manged to avoid any kind of "framing" and seems to be "air brushed" when he's under pressure.
Now, open your eyes
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