Do people really think she'd make a good Home Secretary, should the unthinkable happen and the hard left Labour win an election?

Apparently it's Javid's fault that the ISI bride's child died.

I agree, we should let her back (Begum), then put her in the Tower as a traitor.

Objectively as a liberal, remoaner, snowflake I'd say I don't rate her very much at all. So for none of the reasons you think she should not be Home secretary, I agree.

I can't see that she'd be any worse than some of the recent crop - May, Johnson, Rudd and Javid; it's one of the highest offices in the land, and seems to have been occupied by a series of incompetents and racists in recent years.

I like Diane Abbot, for many reasons, but I don't think she'd get a fair crack - she receives more than 50% of all online abuse aimed at female MP's, and the establishment happily joins in, a la Question Time recently, when Fiona Bruce encouraged a pile-on in during the audience warm-up; so I can't see how she would ever be allowed to perform in such a high office without a constant barrage of abuse and criticism, whether justified or not.

I have no clue what you're on about with your other incoherent ranting - unless we've reinstated throwing people in the Tower of London and I just missed that news.

she's a terrorist apologist, but I guess that's why Corbyn likes her.

I'll ignore your attempted insult.

Yes of course - I forgot about that; scratch everything I said, and down with that sort of thing.

Careful now.

Diane Abbott is mainly targeted for criticism and abuse as she is female and she is black.

I’m sure people will reply saying this is a load of rubbish, but just look at Secretary of State for Transport, Chris Grayling. He has held various ministerial positions both in government and in the shadow cabinet. He must be the most incompetent minister of all time, yet he gets very little criticism or abuse as he is white and male.

If you object to my first paragraph, can you please explain why Chris Grayling doesn’t get anywhere near the attention Diane Abbott gets?

I can only speak for myself, but I criticise Diane Abbott because she is thick and incapable, traits which she shares with Mr Grayling.

Born to working class parents she subsequently went on to study at Cambridge. Not bad for somebody you consider to be thick.

I have to preface this with me being just about as liberal man as you can hope to meet, free of all the baggage of racial unease and misogyny. But there is a pervasive sense from Abbot of someone being thick. I am absolutely certain that her race and gender is the subliminal cause why people on the right so frequently dismiss her, but I'm the polar opposite of that and still find her largely inept whenever she speaks.

Sort of feels like the left wing version of Nadine Dorries

This mat be your most sensible post , ever.
Bang on the money and Grayling, who is wetter than a wet weekend, when it's raining, can only be in his current position to make the rest of the cabinet APPEAR to be competent.

Sadly, amid all of the Brexit fiasco, there seems to be little else being done and the May cronies can get away with slurping from the gravy train while the country plunges towards another recession.

Unfortunately substance no longer counts in politics. That’s why Johnson and Reese Mogg can happily take the mick out of the man on the street, making millions out of his misery while simultaneously being hailed as heroes.

Abbott and Corbyn aren’t good at PR and don’t have the press on side. Which is why we are stuck with the worst government in history. People will still vote for them despite being completely self serving.

The country wont vote for them because the country don't want them, it is as simple as that, I think my neighbours budgie could form a political party and people would vote for it, above either Labour or Conservative, they are all self-serving when they get high enough up the food chain.

Some people have a view that Diane Abbot is thick, because they are force-fed soundbites by a MSM who do everything in their power to create and perpetuate that perception; she clearly isn't thick - her achievements and history demonstrate that - but she isn't posh, is far from slick, and has a presentation style that doesn't fit with the new trend for politicians like media favourites Blair, Johnson and Rudd, who can say nothing of any real substance, but at sufficient volume and with enough confidence, to sound like they know what they're talking about.

Diane Abbot is unfairly vilified because she's black (not coloured) and a woman - that's undeniable.

Diane Abbott is vilified because she gets EVERYTHING wrong. That is undeniable.

Have you got any examples, apart from the numbers brainfart she had during the GE campaign? And that being the case, does your ire extend to other politicians who engage their mouth before their brain during TV interviews?

I prefer to use [url=https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/10001/diane_abbott/hackney_north_and_stoke_newington/votesthis[/url to judge the quality and integrity of an MP, and there's not a great deal here to argue with in my view; you might not agree with it, but over a decades long career in politics, she's been consistent and principled on most issues.

I don't give a t055 hat about Social Issues, the woman is a liability, you may call her "principled", I call her "deluded".

So no response to my reasonable questions - just a rather revealing statement that you don't care about other people - then another slur.

What is she deluded about?

She has a deluded world vision, in my opinion, as do all Socialists, but the Conservatives are rapidly losing my support too, the whole political system is losing my support, it doesn't matter what we voted for, what is in their manifesto etc.

I wanted to remain, watching PMQ's is painful, neither side is making any valid points or offering a valid alternative.

While Diane Abbott and Jeremy Corbyn remain in the leadership of the Labour party they’re always going to get a raw deal from the MSM. They just don’t fit the slick media stereotype. That’s the way it is and the way it has always been since politicians first started appearing on TV. Labour has in effect handicapped itself. There’s no point in whining about the unfairness of it all. It was clear this would happen from day one.

Blair was smooth, but he was also more Conservative than Labour, Brown was crass "that bigoted woman", as you say, politics has become more of a circus than ever.

I think there absolutely is point in whining about it - tax exiled press barons and a BBC seeded with Tories thanks to David Cameron, shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose who our political leaders are, based on their own narrow interests.

Social media has democratised news to such an extent that even in the face of an orchestrated establishment campaign to keep a socialist out of No 10 by any means necessary, including doctoring pictures and weaponizing antisemitism, Labour's message was able to cut through sufficiently to destroy the Tory party majority and disrupt the continuation of policies that have plunged millions of people into poverty and destroyed our public services.

Imagine the outcome if they were actually given a fair crack - people could make a choice based on policies and facts, rather than lies and spin designed to maintain the status quo.

The BBC is rammed with lefties, do you not watch the news?

Labour ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED, take your flat cap off mate.

Our public services have not been destroyed, there are not millions in poverty, we just EXPECT PEOPLE TO WORK.

You’ve missed my point I think. The MSM hasn’t changed in over 40 years. If anything it’s got worse. Complaining about it didn’t help Michael Foot or Neil Kinnock get elected. Why then choose a leader and a shadow home secretary that are poor in front of the media? Seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Corbyn didn’t get elected and that was after the worst Conservative election campaign in living memory and no centre-ist party taking votes from them. He’ll never get a better chance. Especially now the party has splintered.

The BBC News is demonstrably *not* rammed with lefties - it's run, managed and delivered by Tories, some installed by David Cameron for very obvious reasons.

I do actually wear a flat cap - but an expensive tweed one, worn ironically to signify my position as liberal hipster, still in touch with my working class roots; so I'll keep it on ta - it covers my bald patch, and affords me free movement around various artisanal coffee shops who sell smashed avocado on sourbread toast.

Who expects people to work? Don't we have record levels of employment, and the majority of benefits being paid to pensioners and people in work? I don't get it.