We've just rebranded ourselves to cash in on heritage. Would be one step forwards and two step back, although I wouldn't blame the club. It wouldn't be the fault of the current chairman at all.

I didn't suggest it - just thinking aloud about whether the respective Chairmen might consider it...

Can I ask you something Slugger...do you still live in Wakefield?

I only ask because the Wakefield you speak of is long gone. I can tell you know I barely recognise the place especially inner city Wakefield it's so predominantly Eastern European or Asian or young flat dwellers who can't quite afford Leeds prices. Now before Admiral and co go into outrage mode I say fair enough to them for starting a new life they as people are not the issue. However they don't share our memories of Wakefield as it was in our formative years and they have no interest in RL or the club. That's just the reality of a city that has lost is identity even more than most northern towns.

So this idea of the heritage of the club being directly linked to the population of the city is pretty much dead IMHO and Box knows that better than anyone. I suspect that a huge proportion of Trinity regulars now live on the fringe of the city and beyond with ironically the main city enclaves of Lupset and Peacock being as close to Owl lane as Westgate and certainly BV. Other than shopping every now and then I doubt many of them involve themselves in the day to day life of the city as hardly any of them even work in the city anymore.

The existing fans predominantly support the club not the city. Whilst new fans will be attracted by the success hopefully generated and the chance to visit a stadium that on the outside isn't a magnate for fly tippers and degenerates while on the inside only fit for pig breeding.

I actually wish you were right I really do but I like many other fans are a stranger to the Merrie City these days and will remain so but I still support the club which in all honesty my only link with the place these days. That's how I see it even if it's not how I want it.

I agree if we took Wakefield out of our name I wouldn't follow a team that didn't represent our City. The rebranding to Wakefield Trinity and our traditional City badge have been a massive success because of this. I've followed LUFC all over but not with the same passion I have for Wakefield because Wakefield's my City. Stadium, I'd watch us at Owl Lane until we get our Stadium sorted.

Same could be said with nearly every City/Town and after visiting and seeing other places I'm glad to get back to my home City of Wakefield. If we had a decent stadium we wouldn't be having this discussion but I think eventually we will get one in the City of Wakefield, Belle Vue, Newmarket, Easter Relief road, or where ever there's plenty of sites in Wakefield.

Up the Trin

Although there may be "plenty of sites", realistically, it seems that we are limited to 2 (without adding another layer of cost)
Belle Vue or Newmarket.
After that we become even more "desperate" and that's probably where Dewsbury comes into the equation.
Plus, as we are not blessed with cash (understatement), we can only go with what may be possible and it's as clear as day that, WMDC will not "gift" us any land, maybe nothing at all so, where does that leave us ?

There seems little point wishing and dreaming for this piece of land or that piece of land, it will NEVER happen (especially as the council are skint).

TRB and Co have done and continue to do the best they can and they wont give up the fight but, 5 years down the line maybe we have to think of a new plan and unless someone wins the Euromillions we have to perhaps be a bit more realistic with our options.

Not sure about that, almost everywhere I go to the people have a stronger local identity than most Wakefield residents - maybe I'm hanging around with the wrong people

Giving a piece of land doesn't cost the council money, ok the overall value of council land would be diminished but wouldn't actually cost them hard cash.

It depends what they have earmarked for the land but, I take your point.

No, and haven't for many years, and yes, you're maybe right, that the city has changed in many respects. I think any change in Wakefield is more marked because it was a city that was barely touched by immigration. The Asian immigration patterns in the north follow the textile towns, which is why it seems to end at the M1, when the industrial towns became mining towns. What Wakefield is perhaps experiencing is a first wave as far as the city is concerned, whereas places like Dewsbury had their first wave a few decades ago. But there must surely be a local identity as far as people who live in Wakefield are concerned?

It's a chicken and egg scenario, I guess. People support the club, not the city, but they support the club because it's the city they are from (and were dragged to games as kids).

Having read MC's article today, it does seem there are some cautious signs for optimism, but I do worry what would happen if the club left Wakefield, especially if it dropped the name Wakefield.

Sorry , but which article is that ? would appreciate reading it. Thanks in anticipation

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Here you are Buster.

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I was born in Wakefield and have never lived outside the city boundary, but I'm now entering my 61st season as a supporter of Wakefield Trinity and witnessed very good, good, bad & very bad times as such. It grieves me to say it but if a move to Dewsbury came about it would only have to be on a temporary basis for me. I cannot imagine anything else other than the walk down St Catherine street (as bad as it is), and taking up my spot in the corner of the terrace.
I do have a contingency in that I hold a season ticket for a neighbouring football club that wears red, but my real love is for Trinity. To move away from the city and the game that I was brought up on would be just too much.
I've only visited the Owl Lane ground once and that was just after it had opened. didn't think much of it then and from what I've seen of it recently I don't rate it as a Super League ground. Anyway, who knows how sustainable Dewsbury Rams are? God forbid, but in this day and age how long are they likely to be around for?
My personal dream is for Mr Carter to convince the new owners that a greatly improved Belle Vue incorporating retail and leisure facilities is a viable commercial proposition.