The deal is permanent deal for McShane and a loan to the end of season.
We didn't have to let McShane go.

To me it either means there is a financial benefit to us, like possibly Cas still paying part wages as he is still under contract, or McShane is kicking up a fuss and we need him to leave for team spirit reasons.
I can't imagine the second so I assume the first.

Except when he plays you mean!



Still he can always fall back on his experiences at London last year....

WHo said anything about Moore being at Wakey next season.

I'm not one for moaning on here, but Christ. Obviously, this is a money thing. We've gone from taking Leeds' cast offs, to Cas' cast offs

We did not need to swap players now, yes he is out of contract but all we have got is a player who will be with us for the same period. The reason is either strategical because Moore brings something McShane didn't or we are just looking to do things on the cheap again. I am sad but it is for our great club because Carter can leave when he wants because I doubt he is still paying money into the club but whatever he leaves behind we as supporters will have to live with.
I note he will still not accept that any decision he had made was wrong, just look at his Twitter comment regarding student tickets.

Gotta say, even though i'm not a fan of this news I'm still behind Carter. We are obviously living within our means due to a fall in crowds. We can't spend money we don't have, if we did then we'd be in a mess again like after the Glover reign, and then people would be moaning. Seems he can't win sometimes.

But it's catch 22.

Keep weakening the team and results get worse.
Results get worse and crowds fall away.
And repeat until there is no cheaper option available.

Known as a race to the bottom.

I guess he'd best get some money tree's planted quickly then.

Thought McShane was one of your best players when you beat us first game of the year, it was him that swung the momentum to spark the comeback.
One thing is for sure - Powell can see good players in weak teams (all our ex-London players have proved to be very astute signings). I hope this is the case for McShane too.
I really can't understand why you have taken Owen, Tansey and now Moore.

Like a lot of our players this season they've had a nightmare 'collectively' it doesn't make them bad players individually, that is true of Mcshane who I rate, he is a loss to us with out doubt, I don't thing Moore is half the player he is although I will welcome him aboard and support him 100%

Moore showed a lot of talent in his early career and has never progressed, lets hope his time to shine is now

it must be great being a cas fan,everythings coming up roses.

Yes, but we also remember the anti-climax to last season.
This year, we need to kick on and not fade out.

I think McShane has been hit and miss this season really, often looking a good player in a very poor team and poor performance. Generally when he and Godinet were interchanging I thought we looked better when Godinet was on the field.

Never been a big fan of Moore though and cannot think that I have seen much of him to form much of an opinion, however I think he seems to have a bit of a nasty streak to him which is something we have certainly been lacking since Justin poore left.

I hope he gets stuck in and gets to the tackle as third man regularly and tackles the legs, lost count of the times I have watched players waltz out of or offload from a two man tackle, or at best be tackled stood up allowing a fast PTB.

one things for sure changes are needed.

Whats the problem . The teams been crap all season with very little effort or skill shown from 1 to 13. You would think we had a team of world beaters by some of the comments. The players on the move have gone a little earlier than expected so what. Mc shane s wobbled about all season I don't think hes broke in to a sweat all season. You can argue that he will perform better in a winning side, lets be honest he will have to

spot on that , we lost 15 games on the trot bs is sorting the team out. p mcshane says he carnt wait to pull a cas shirt on speakes volumes that.

Exactly!

If we were breaking up a winning team I could understand it but lets face it the players who have left, McShane, Ryan, Collis and Dan Smith were actually integral players in a losing team!
I'm not saying they were the total reason, of course but if BS hadn't made any changes he would have been up for as much criticism as he apparently now is. does that make sense -it's late!

I don't know Moore's situation into next year, but let's say the choice of hookers is between two players of comparable quality in a situation where a bit of fight is required, and have the following circumstances:
1. Hooker 1 has a contract elsewhere for next year already sorted and is seeing out his existing contract.
2. Hooker 2 has no contract and is playing for a contract somewhere.

In that scenario, I would go for hooker 2, Scott Moore.

@Scottymoore33: Looking forward to finishing the year with wakey and getting some game time but as for next chapter I'm still contracted next year at cas

That blows my argument out of the water. I can only assume McShane couldn't wait to go, so we felt we might as well get a replacement of some sorts rather than have that tub sulking until September.

Let me tell you a few things about Scott Moore. He is one tough soab. A real tough character, gritty and will work very hard. I've seen Wakefield a few times this season and that isn't something I'd associate with your team. Scott Moore played 75 minutes for us v Catalan playing all the second half with a broken foot, scored a crucial try and was motm, roughly 8 weeks ago. At magic weekend he was knocked out with Scott Anderson and hasn't featured much since (v Leeds he made the icon cuthburtson spill possession allowing Cas to drop a goal) but we've had milner and Ben Roberts at 9 a fair bit.

I don't know what I think of mcshane or where he fits. But overall I have been happy with Moore this year. I have took the mick when you signed Owen and tansey but not this signing. If anything I'm a bit disappointed.

I think we have really missed Owen on the wing. But that's not about this.

Macshane had a few good games this year but I'm not fussed he's gone. His defence has been lazy and weak for a long time now and despit a few good kicks and a few decent runs from the play hes been far too ineffective for me.

I'm glad he's gone, whether it be attitude, fitness or ability he has not been good enough overall this year.

We will see if Moore has what it takes. Macshane unfortunately except a few ocassions I feel has let himself and the club down this past month or so in the attitude/application front.

This made me think of a 'what if...'

What if BS thinks that the weakest link in the team is the fitness levels. (after his son came over and did an assessment)
There is not enough time to improve conditioning before the vital part of the season.
So, just swap out a few players for ones from other clubs in positions we need who are already better conditioned?
Maybe he's a genius?
We'll see.

Bloody hell. Mc shanes total lack of effort sort of painted the picture. He wanted away asap

We saw exactly what we needed from McShane in the game v Warrington.

Pace, direct, sharp, strong...unfortunately, it all came from Dwyer.

I think Mc shane was well down the order of S L hookers. dboys 100% right. Mcshanes been slow at play the ball, he does not create anything, he very rarely attacks the line, his positional plays been woe full.