If he hadn't knocked on that second time, would people be as critical? And for that one, I think he dropped it because he received an almighty hit. He didn't know where he was for five minutes.

If we are going to rest him, I would put Ben in there, subject to there being someone decent to put on the wing. He returns the ball with gusto. I am a fan of his as a player, but not as a winger. He isn't tall enough and he comes in too often.

Cockayne at fullback and Liam Kay on the wing? Or Motu Tony?

LOL how dare he talk about anything on twitter apart from rugby and I didn't realize he's missed training to play golf, I'm just hoping this comment was tongue in cheek.

What have I been saying to you dummys drop him let him get his confidence back nah we will keep him on and let him cost us games !!! Tony is a former test fullback ffs he is not some pub player.

Somebody ban this plank.

Its no good telling us, go and see RA and put him straight.

Would be tempted to experiment now as think top eight gone. Probably a good time for agar to give few chances out to see what the can handle. Would be even tempted to give John another go and if doesn't work out we can release at end of season.

I dont think we should change our HB pairing at the mo.
The one plus in the last 2 games is that at least we are scoring plenty of points.
The defensive contribution of RM has been non existant and has bordered on wreckless.
Knock ons with no pressure on is schoolboy stuff, 11/12 year olds are taught how to take the ball better than this guy has managed in the last couple of games.

Do we think that he has been offered a contract for next season or has he mentally given up ?

Could be the opposite as Agar may have said not in our plans for next season (Agar already made some weird decisions)

I've highlighted that for obvious reasons!!!

Last time Tony played first team Rugby was against Bradford last game of season and he was my man of match and probably a few others thought so so can't say he doesn't have the ability.

Thought he payed against Wigan this season?

If he's injured then he should be given time to recover, in the meantime what's wrong with Cockayne at full back, Mellars on the wing in his rightful position Sykes at centre and John back at stand off,

on reflection though it would never work, far too simple really.

IJ would have had to show sufficient improvement for that to occur, if that is the case, it is a as you say simple stuff.

He did .. played well too!

NO WAY!

He makes the rest of us look good

Mmmmm Vasty. I'm starting to wonder whether you two are opposite sides of the same split personality.
He starts something weird, you come in as voice of reason to the rest but the lambast him later.
You are always beating him up verbally then later give us good reason for him.

Or maybe you are the voice in his head, telling him we are all evil and then following with nice words to look good.

#eviltwin

He is without doubt John maybe worth a shout or how about the young kid Danny Ansell in the U20 good kicker solid what have we to lose blooding a few before the seasons end. Dont think Tony is the answar and is he fit

Like Mathers but is his heart in it is he looking ealsewhere next season

Yep give young Fletcher a game on the wing

Wouldn't change SH or SO,but I would def give young Kaye a shot ,looks good runs hard and he's said he would play anywhere as long as he has a shirt on.Let Ritchie have a rest as someone said earlier ,he looks like he's carrying an injury.

Jordan Grayston maybe worth a shot a big lad pace and can drop a goal (just watch the 9i's tomorrow

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Agree to all comments on this forum. Him being VC is a kick in the guts. Why???? I don't rate him at all. In the whole of super league, he is the worst fullback of all. He does nothing, Agar might as well put his jersey back in the uniform bag for the next game. He makes mistakes which loses games & he still plays? others makes mistakes & they get dropped. Favoritism, what do you think??

He's made some recent mistakes. He is not the worst and has had some outstanding games this season.
If he needs a rest then so be it but you are way off mark with this. Have you been watching this year?

I agree with Cockayne to fullback as mentioned above if Mathers is rested for some reason. but I disagree with Les the goose about John. How dare you make the comments above about john? what makes you an expert about him? What qualification do you have? What level did you play if you played the game at all. Have you coached at high level? The answer will be NO NO NO to all.
I have coached him at representative level just below NRL & he was way better than what he is now. What I have known of him, he was a Halfback from when he was 7 until the NZ Warriors, then other coache's decided to play him at SO. He is not a Standoff. He will prove you back stabbers wrong.The Wildcats don't need negative people like you. Unless you have played Super league or NRL, then you can make comment. If you haven't, Shut the hell up.

Rather inconsistent arent you passionate.
Ok for you to slag Mathers off, but no one else has the right to criticise a player?
If the qualification for participating on these forums was to have coached and played at NRL or Superleague level we would not have a forum.
Note it is entitled Fans Forum.
By the way I too think John has some ability.