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| Now that I've thought about it more, I wouldn't be that disappointed with Agar. I wonder if his problems at Hull are partly to do with the assistant-coach syndrome, and higher expectations from the fans when he took over. He was appointed to a team that had been to a Challenge Cup final and a Grand Final not long before. It could be said that he has taken them backwards, in that they have't kicked on (although there was another Challenge Cup final), but he clearly doesn't lack potential. He has had some bad luck with injuries over the last couple of years. Maybe he just needs a fresh start at a club where he can build and move up. Looking at Hull's coaching turnover, there might be as many backroom reasons for his struggles.
I'm not saying I want Agar, but I think I would have taken him over Millward.
Cummins and a decent assistant would be the way forward for me though. The way Gentle has been touting himself around doesn't make him look good, in my view. He threw his hat in the ring for the Salford job, and he's been linked with us, Cas and Hul KR, when he has no head coach credentials.
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| Quote ="bren2k"In which case, keep him - I think speak for all of us when I say that WE DO NOT want Agar at WTW; he would be absolutely the wrong coach for us and would offer no improvement at all on Mr Kear.
His appointment would be be, in his own slightly illiterate words, "absolute baffling."'"
Like I said, he isn't good enough to get us from lower parts of the play-offs to genuine challengers. That's what we need, you just need to go from basement dwellers to pushing the top 8.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Like I said, he isn't good enough to get us from lower parts of the play-offs to genuine challengers. That's what we need, you just need to go from basement dwellers to pushing the top 8.'"
I think you need to read the post by vastman is my response to that post.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Like I said, he isn't good enough to get us from lower parts of the play-offs to genuine challengers. That's what we need, you just need to go from basement dwellers to pushing the top 8.'"
And you need to jog on back to the Hull board, where your condescending claptrap might get a better reception.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Ok. Agar isn't THAT bad of a coach. Infact, he's really good at some aspects of the job. He took over a really poor Hull FC side and has taken us to a CC final. He also took us from 11th in the league to 1 game away from 4th last year. He's good at improving players game (IMO). Manu, Tickle, Briscoe, Moa, Houghton have all improved in the last couple of seasons. He also makes good signings - whether that is because of the Hull FC name or not and whether he could replicate that at Wakefield I don't know. He has some strong ties to places like Featherstone too.
There are 2 things that he does badly IMO. The first is getting the players' in the right mindset. I honestly believe all the players like him and are motivated to play for him but I'm not sure if he can get the players' in the right mindset to beat teams like Saints/Warrington on a consistent basis. The second thing is his tactics, at times, are completely baffling. His use of substitutes is strange too.
Wakefield, for me, are one of the worst teams in the league. I think Agar can take you from basement dwellers to play-off makers with the right backing. Further than that, I don't think so.'"
that's the biggest bit of drivel I have read on the Agar saga, its almost like your a second hand car salesman trying to convince us that even though the car smokes a little its worth buying.
please keep Mr Agar for his last year and prove us all wrong and go and win something for a change
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Ok. Agar isn't THAT bad of a coach. Infact, he's really good at some aspects of the job. He took over a really poor Hull FC side and has taken us to a CC final. He also took us from 11th in the league to 1 game away from 4th last year. He's good at improving players game (IMO). Manu, Tickle, Briscoe, Moa, Houghton have all improved in the last couple of seasons. He also makes good signings - whether that is because of the Hull FC name or not and whether he could replicate that at Wakefield I don't know. He has some strong ties to places like Featherstone too.
There are 2 things that he does badly IMO. The first is getting the players' in the right mindset. I honestly believe all the players like him and are motivated to play for him but I'm not sure if he can get the players' in the right mindset to beat teams like Saints/Warrington on a consistent basis. The second thing is his tactics, at times, are completely baffling. His use of substitutes is strange too.
Wakefield, for me, are one of the worst teams in the league. I think Agar can take you from basement dwellers to play-off makers with the right backing. Further than that, I don't think so.'"
Look I know you don't want him , but neither do we, so stop bigging him up.
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| Ofiakow your club is no longer a big player and u until very recently have been playing at a similar standard to ourselves. Next season should see us improve a fair bit and we will be on an even keel with the likes of you rovers cas etc. Agar is a great bloke and has got a good rugby brain however he's not the man for us you condescending jerk
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| I'm sure I've read somewhere that Agar hasn't given a young hull fc player a debut THIS year... Don't know how true that is, but for me if were looking to bring on our young players and give them a chance then its not Agar also imo he wouldn't revolutionise the coaching structure from top to bottom that I feel is what is required here at WTW
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| Quote ="mwildcats"I'm sure I've read somewhere that Agar hasn't given a young hull fc player a debut THIS year... Don't know how true that is, but for me he wouldn't revolutionise the coaching structure from top to bottom that I feel is what is required here at WTW'"
With the exception of reece lynn i cant think of any others theyve brought in for a long while, im sure ill be corrected but i genuinely cant think of any
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Ok. Agar isn't THAT bad of a coach. Infact, he's really good at some aspects of the job. He took over a really poor Hull FC side and has taken us to a CC final. He also took us from 11th in the league to 1 game away from 4th last year. He's good at improving players game (IMO). Manu, Tickle, Briscoe, Moa, Houghton have all improved in the last couple of seasons. He also makes good signings - whether that is because of the Hull FC name or not and whether he could replicate that at Wakefield I don't know. He has some strong ties to places like Featherstone too.
There are 2 things that he does badly IMO. The first is getting the players' in the right mindset. I honestly believe all the players like him and are motivated to play for him but I'm not sure if he can get the players' in the right mindset to beat teams like Saints/Warrington on a consistent basis. The second thing is his tactics, at times, are completely baffling. His use of substitutes is strange too.
Wakefield, for me, are one of the worst teams in the league. I think Agar can take you from basement dwellers to play-off makers with the right backing. Further than that, I don't think so.'"
John Kear did that before the money problems for me I would keep JK if Agar is the only option
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| I hope that 'Old_Faithful_IAKW' isn't Jimmy Elston's pen name.
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| All though not my preferred choice as coach if it was agar then id support him and give him a chance. Goulding would just make us a laughing stock. What about agar with cummins as assistant? Who ever it is I'll still support the mighty trin but hopefully AG will take the best option available to move our great club forward
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| Exactly m62. Whoever gets the job gets a clean slate and my support. That includes agar goulding whoever. I might not particularly like the appointment but as I say I'll give the new man my support
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| Quote ="Uptoncat"Exactly m62. Whoever gets the =#FF0000Jon gets a clean slate and my support. That includes agar goulding whoever. I might not particularly like the appointment but as I say I'll give the new man my support'" american slang for toilet are you even happy they clean our bogs
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| Hull looked good tonight, maybe Agar is the man for us
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| Hull looked very well coached tonight
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| It was was as much cas being shocking as hull being good. Still no to Agar from me.
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"All though not my preferred choice as coach if it was agar then id support him and give him a chance. Goulding would just make us a laughing stock. What about agar with cummins as assistant? Who ever it is I'll still support the mighty trin but hopefully AG will take the best option available to move our great club forward'"
I agree.
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| Clean slate if it's agar or whoever
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| cummins will be appointed very soon so forget agar
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when will it be anounced im fed up we need a coach to bring new ideas not any tom dick or harry or bobby i think ag as more oil in his lamp just to set just anybody onposting.php? ... &t=506787#
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when will it be anounced im fed up we need a coach to bring new ideas not any tom dick or harry or bobby i think ag as more oil in his lamp just to set just anybody onposting.php? ... &t=506787#
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| Quote ="M62 J30 TRINITY"Hull looked very well coached tonight'"
Do you mean they arrived on good time prior to game via coach.?
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"Like I said, he isn't good enough to get us from lower parts of the play-offs to genuine challengers. That's what we need, you just need to go from basement dwellers to pushing the top 8.'"
I was cheering for Hull tonight but after reading that tripe I now wish you'd lost.
Why should we be just happy with pushing the top 8 ?
You have no more right to be challenging than us, so you can take your ill formed opinion and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"
Wakefield, for me, are one of the worst teams in the league. I think Agar can take you from basement dwellers to play-off makers with the right backing. Further than that, I don't think so.'"
To think I was cheering for you tonight againsy Cas. Won't be doing in play-offs. Wakey have gone through a lot of adversity over the past 4 or 5 years, we are now on the up and not happy with just making the top 8.
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| I'll still support hull in play offs don't mind them at all. Why let one knob spoil their reputation? Like both hull clubs they're very passionate and always create a good atmosphere
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