Cas must be laughing their socks off now they can off load all their rubbish on to our gullible club.

What a bloody shambles, how the hell is our squad expected to compete with Leigh , Bradford and Halifax in the Middle 8. We know that we have no chance against the SL teams. Think Leigh and Bradford will stuff us and we may run Fax close.

it is certainly a good one for the doom laden moaners, that's for sure.

I think we (Cas) have got the better end of the deal here and can totally understand the sentiments already mentioned regarding the relationship between our two clubs. I rate McShane and think he'll go ok for us. I don't think he'll have to do as many minutes at Cas or have as much pressure on him to create/perform, but it might be next season before we really see any benefit as his fitness isn't where it needs to be.
What I will say about Moore is that I was really unhappy when we signed him, but have got to hold my hands up and say he's a better player than I gave him credit for and he'll definitely add some steel to your defence. Barring the odd brain fart I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with him.

why are cas laughing at us ,hes just an average hooker,scott moore is just what we need for the middle 8.much tougher and loads of experience far better tackler than p mcshane imo.

M carter been asked on twitter if anymore players coming in and his reply "1 but its a longshot"

Our Cas reject quota must be full.

Whilst they can never tell the whole story thats not what the stats say....

[uMcShane [/u
22 games
593 tackles (ave. 27 per game)
36 misses (ave 1.64)

[uMoore[/u
14 games
333 tackles (ave 23.8 )
32 misses (ave. 2.3)

Given that McShane has been playing in a badly beaten side all season and Moore hasn't then those stats look even better for him. He is better in every other statistical area as well. He was our only ever present this year so he has certainly showed some toughness there as well.

As for experience, yes Moore has played about 40 games more than Mcshane, then again we are his 10th club change and 7th different club by the age of 27. Tells you something.

if a teams getting beat every week the coach has got to do something,getting rid of the weak links, thats what bs is doing,or do you want nothing to change and just carry on,dont underestimate bs or mc.

Not a big fan of either and if we have to loose McShane for something/one better long term then so be it.

We don't appear to be getting anything of quality out of all these wakey - cas deals do we?????

Don't have a problem with this. Mc shanes no interest and a new face with a better attitude will do for me. Mc shane was over rated.

What worries me is that we havent had a settled team since smith took charge and now were going into the middle 8 with yet more squad changes. Wete hardly going to be a cohesive unit as opposedto other teams who have a relatively settled 17

Come on wake up and smell the coffee we have no intentions of being here once the season is over. We are planning to clear the decks making it easier to finalise everything with the minimum inconvenience. We are now working on ensuring our relegation by bringing in players on short term contracts who are either already signed for next season with other clubs or are so poor no one else would want them.
I know you need your pacifiers to get through all this negativity. I see the usual he was not that good anyway, we are bringing in better all praise M Carter he saved us but unfortunately he is now ruling over our imminent demise. When we go we can at least say we went with a clean slate and a chairman loved by all others in the game.
Yes I am annoyed more at the idiots on here with rose titled spectacles who will not face what the rest of us can see. I expect you will be standing outside the gates of Belle Vue next year whist fully remembering the halcyon days.

if I was you I'd ask the mrs to move all sharp knives away from the draw and stick corks on the forks

So why are you still here then Scarlet? Doesn't seem worth watching and certainly not posting about the terrible state we are in.
You should cut your loses and do something else that you enjoy.

My glasses aren't tinted. I know what state we are in.....but I'm supporting anyway.

I am sure Scarlet knows what state we are in and he is still supporting the club just like you. I am also sure
the reason he is so negative is because he loves the club and hates to see it dying.

We have enough sycophants on here already, if you wish to restrict it to those who believe in unicorns and the tooth fairy you can do by blocking those that don't. This is still a forum and I wish to register my disgust at the way we are going, you don't care providing we have a team wearing red white and blue or whatever crazy colours we come up with.
I would suggest you change the title to "Wakefield Trinity forum only true believers need contribute"
I expect the usual to come on here saying like you why don't you support Castleford well the reason I am disgusted is because Wakefield are the club I have supported for over 40 years and I have never experienced a season like this or it being run quite so badly. We are about to enter the middle 8's with a vastly changed team of cast offs. I wish Smith well because he is trying to save us with one hand tied behind his back and no ground for next season.

I think it's a shrewd move.
You are bringing in a player that is coming from a winning environment and replacing someone who will have eye on next season with the Cas contract already in the back pocket. That player will be effected, even if it's just 1% in his approach and mentality it's 1% less for us.

Brian Smith is shuffling the pack, leave it to him. Game on next weekend....

Anybody that doesn't think we are getting the dirty end of the stick with this deal doesn't know much about RL. Is McShane a world beater? No of course he isn't, but he is a talented young player who offers a damn sight more than Scott bloody Moore does. That bloke is a waste of space, but i'm not surprised he's here and thats the saddest thing.

Take Locke out of the equation and have any of our signings really been improvements on those that have left? Not in my opinion. Where is the real improvement on a matchday anywhere other than in Millers performances? A win against a very understrength and knackered Hull team and everybody got giidy. 100 points conceded in the last two games tells me not much has changed. Looks to me we are preparing for life in the division below which will likely be fatal. Seems to me Mr Carter didn't save the club when he took over, he has just delayed it's death. Pee'd off with it all and had enough? You had better believe it.

I don't know about a winning mentality, Cas may have only lost 9 league games this season but Moore has played in 7 of those. Their success rate without him is much higher!

Oh boo hoo Scarlet
No one is saying you can't say your opinion, but when your opinion is everything is rubbish and that those who don't see what you see have rose tinted glasses and are idiots I don't see why you are still here......... And generally people don't like being called idiots. Why are you surprised someone replied?
You accuse the club of just giving up and preparing for lower league but you have no knowledge about why they are doing what they are doing.

Even if McShane is better than Moore, we are the bottom club and that's the kind of signing we'll be doing for a while even if we survive the middle 8. It's no good accusing people of trying to kill the club.
It seems to me they are trying in difficult circumstances.

I'm not happy at the state of the club but we are where we are. If you call me an idiot for still following and looking for the positive in the situation then so be it. I'd rather be me than you.

I said a winning environment, which is a subtle difference.
Give the lad a chance Statto!

I don't want to see a team of half hearted players taking the field. You can see the players only put half the effort in and many of them are out of contract at the end of the season and probably found a new club. Things had to change we may not agree with the players coming in but for me its about effort . Im sure( although the time scales short) that Brian Smith will get the best out of the players at his disposal, I don't agree with some of the comings and goings but you have to give way to B Smith . I was over the moon when we got him and im still supportive of his efforts and decision making. I also dont see a problem with shifting players out who are away at the end of the season, I think the efforts put in by a number that departed been poor.

I wouldn't like to be in M C shoes and its easy to give him a hard time and to be honest I don't like his management style , but why keep players on your books who don't want to be at Wakey next season . If you can do a deal and replace with another player in the same position then that's ok by me. Im just not in the know enough to make an educated comment, but I would have thought it was not a decision taken without consultation .
The 8s are about to start and new team players will be taking the field, I do not see that as a bad thing.

McShane has done little this year except put even more weight on. He cut out the early season regular forward passes but his kicking has been remained abysmal. I would blame him for handing the impetus to Catalans at 10-12 the other week leading to us losing a game where we were dominating. Pity we can't get a bread and butter hooker like Andy Ellis signed up before the deadline.

[iWakefield Trinity Wildcats are delighted to announce the loan signing of Scott Moore.
The hooker has joined the club from Super League rivals Castleford Tigers until the end of the season. [/i

What makes you think Moore wants to be here next season? The lads had more clubs than Tiger Woods.