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Now the top 8 is officially settled and we're less than two weeks away from the play-offs, I thought it would be interesting to see how this year's table looks if you only include fixtures between the qualifying teams. Here it is, thoughts?



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Saints - garbage defence against teams who can actually score
Warrington/Wigan/Leeds - cruise control
Huddersfield - up and down, mostly down. Just making up the play-off numbers.
Cas - see: Saints
Widnes & Catalan - shocking, probably the worst teams to ever make the top 8 (and that includes Crusaders). Proves it should be a top 6 format.

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Means nowt and the play offs will sort the best clubs from those that have taken advantage of others teams 'take it easy attitude' to finish in the top 4.

Only three teams can win it IMO (Wigan, Leeds or Wire).

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Quote: NickyKiss "Means nowt and the play offs will sort the best clubs from those that have taken advantage of others teams 'take it easy attitude' to finish in the top 4.

Only three teams can win it IMO (Wigan, Leeds or Wire).'"


Leeds from 6th? which seems their final placing.

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Quote: Refnom95 " thoughts?

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We will be top of this irrelevant table next week, 3rd in the real table, and ready to play Saints at langtree the week after.

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Quote: wigan pie man "Leeds from 6th? which seems their final placing.'"


Yep. I said before the season they'd win the double this year, not saying they will now but they have the squad to do it. 6th is probably a blessing for them anyway, they've been awful a lot of the season get they get rewarded with a fairly easy tie at home to either Widnes or Catalan.

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Quote: Wigg'n "Saints - garbage defence against teams who can actually score
Warrington/Wigan/Leeds - cruise control
Huddersfield - up and down, mostly down. Just making up the play-off numbers.
Cas - see

Err thanks for that.

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Quote: wigan pie man "Leeds from 6th? which seems their final placing.'"


Without question. They're a win against Catalans or Widnes away from being in the same position as the other teams in the top four.

They're the team to beat IMO which sums up this crazy format we play under perfectly when you consider they're 6th!!

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Quote: NickyKiss "Without question. They're a win against Catalans or Widnes away from being in the same position as the other teams in the top four.

They're the team to beat IMO which sums up this crazy format we play under perfectly when you consider they're 6th!!'"


After reading through the Leeds forum this morning the first bit of sense comes on the Wigan forum, who would have thought that?! icon_wink.gif

Leeds' next fixture is dead rubber, McDermott should rest almost everybody. A win against Widnes/Catalan and we will be very well set for an assault against the top 4 with a fully fit squad. We will arguably be in a better position than our 2 GF wins from 5th.

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Quote: RhinoNeil "After reading through the Leeds forum this morning the first bit of sense comes on the Wigan forum, who would have thought that?!
And when you look at the fixtures the other teams in the top 6 will be coming off the back of, it would be silly to rule Leeds out as they should be the fresher team. Wigan and Wire play each other, Saints and Hudds play each other and Cas have to travel to France, all knowing they can finish in various positions between 1-5. Leeds know win, lose or draw against Hull FC on Friday, they'll be sixth and at home in week 1 of the playoffs. No disrespect to either Widnes or Cats, but you would expect a Leeds win in week 1, particularly at home, then they have to travel to a team who's lost an "on paper" much tougher game. It's an obvious failure with the system, but to rule Leeds out now is very premature.

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they are certainly in the better position on paper (Leeds) but I think they looked really jaded in the second half against us last week so I doubt a weeks' rest for most of the first teamers will do them much good now, either physically or mentally. they are of course the team who perennially prove their doubters wrong however so all is yet to be seen I suppose.

can't see them even making the GF though myself.

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[size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.' [color=red:2md8k3b3] Shaun Wane's post-Grand Final speech. 5th October 2013.[/color:2md8k3b3][/b:2md8k3b3][/size:2md8k3b3]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_16304.jpg



Quote: WiganBurt "they are certainly in the better position on paper (Leeds) but I think they looked really jaded in the second half against us last week so I doubt a weeks' rest for most of the first teamers will do them much good now, either physically or mentally. they are of course the team who perennially prove their doubters wrong however so all is yet to be seen I suppose.

can't see them even making the GF though myself.'"

That was more than likely the Challenge Cup hangover finally kicking in. They've had two tough games following the final (and played the majority of one of those a man down) so it was a good time to play them. It was a close, tight game up until Flower went over an could easily have gone either way if they had quickly scored again after Sutcliffe's try/Charnley's gift (delete as applicable).

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Quote: WARRIORCRAIG "And when you look at the fixtures the other teams in the top 6 will be coming off the back of, it would be silly to rule Leeds out as they should be the fresher team. Wigan and Wire play each other, Saints and Hudds play each other and Cas have to travel to France, all knowing they can finish in various positions between 1-5. Leeds know win, lose or draw against Hull FC on Friday, they'll be sixth and at home in week 1 of the playoffs. No disrespect to either Widnes or Cats, but you would expect a Leeds win in week 1, particularly at home, then they have to travel to a team who's lost an "on paper" much tougher game. It's an obvious failure with the system, but to rule Leeds out now is very premature.'"


which makes a further mockery of the present system and it doesn't help that teams are playing at different times and on different days. Not saying they will, but anyone could try to manipulate the results to their advantage.

for instance...would you fancy playing a pretty fresh Leeds away, or a beat up Wigan/wire/cas/hudds away? I predict both Widnes and Catalan lose this weekend, with neither fancying a trip to Leeds

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If we beat Warrington and Huddersfield beat Saints who would you want to win between Catalan and Castleford? If Catalan win Saints win the hub cap and we finish 2nd with a home tie against Huddersfield. If Castleford win Saints are deprived of the hub cap and we finish 3rd with an away tie against Saints.

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Quote: -VIKINGMAN- "Err thanks for that.'"


He's over-exaggerating a little, but you know full well you're out in the first week of the playoffs.

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