I really don't think Prescott and Lima are going to be able to hold this side together. If I was Saints coach, I'd be bringing out the following pack

Perry Roby LMS
TP Sia
Flanaghan

This would be by far our most agressive pack and whilst your two boys maybe able to handle Perry and LMS, they cannnot cover all 6. It would be effectively like having to handle 4 props all at once and Sia, LMS and TP can all shift when they bust through. I doubt we will go with this as Wilkin is a certain to start, but even with Wilkin is does not stop the impact from our big 4. That would leave us with Flanaghan, Flannery, Clough and Megennis. Why maybe not household names they should be more than able to handle themselves at this level and Flanaghan inparticular can really crunch a few in the tackle. Both benches lack strike players, but our 4 can certainly hold the line and did so last week and the week before.

Hock would be the one player we will need to wrap up as he can create 2nd phase but we have tacklers who should be able to wrap him up man and ball.

Yeah Lima and Prescott will need to handle a full pack because guys like Hock, Lockers and Hansen are mugs with no big game experience aren't they!

Jeez 2 wins bring 'them' out don't they!!

im not sure people have seen much of mcilorum this year either, so hopefully hell make a statement on friday.

Game doesnt need playing then you've told us what's going to happen.

Lockers head choppers
Hock I think you may have missed that but I think I said that he was your packs main strike power
HH.... Meh!!








Well if you want to do a deal, how about we will keep it a points difference of 12 in Saints favour and then we can all have a nice rest for Easter monday.

I see the village idiots are out in force tonight...

Massive step up for Dudson who's been playing for a team struggling at the wrong end of Championship 1. What a game for the guy to make a name for himself.

I would definately keep Lima on the bench.

I see Lima, Mossop and Prescott as our main props, with all of them fit it doesnt matter who starts on the bench etc but with one of them out we need to have one starting and one on the bench because if we have to bring 2 of them off and replace them with the lesser props then we lose any fire power that we had in that match. It happened in the opening game vs Huddersfield, we started with Mossop and Lima and when those two came off and Flower and Lauaki came on we got absolutely bullied by their pack.

We need to keep one of Prescott and Lima on the pitch at all times on Friday.

I'd go with:

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Finch
Leuluai
Prescott
McIlorum
Hansen
Hock
Tuson
O'Loughlin

Lima
Mellor
Hughes
Spencer/Dudson depending on Spencers injury.

Gutted the Ginger Pearl is out, he has been in fantastic form recently.

That's the team that I would pick, although it seems like Wane has already made his decision to play Dudson.

I reckon he might go with his favoured 4 forwards on the bench and have Lima, Dudson, Hughes and Spencer, assuming Spencer is fit to play.

Anyone would think it is Derby day soon.

Tomkins
Charnley
Goulding
Carmont
Richards
Finch
Leuluai
Prescott
McIlorum
Lima
Hock
Hansen
O'Loughlin

Powell
Dudson
Hughes
Spencer

Go big of the bench and minimal disruption in the starting 13.

Tuggles,you are the first to mention Powell on this thread,maybe its because he suffered an unfortunate injury a couple of weeks ago.
It is said that he suffered a broken leg.

[uthis would be true but they arn't the only two players playing in the pack you forgot to mention hock, hansen and o'loughlin.[/u

no it isn't because sia isn't a prop its like saying hasen is a prop just isn't true just very strong 2nd rows, lms is a prop so cant disagree, tp up against hock will be a good battle both as strong as each other.

[iflash is a cruncher some times but tommy, micky mac and tuson arn't no slouchers[/i

i aint a fortune teller so i dont know what will happen but i know one thing it wont just be preckie and pumba tackleing alone. personal i think the forwards will be a very good battle and let the better side win.

My mistake. Never realised.

...and that one statement tells us exactly what a plank you are. I think we can safely disregard anything else you have to say.

Fully agree

Spencer injured, Hanson starts at Prop, Tuson starts in 2nd row, Lima and Dudson on bench the m,ain question is gelling, hughes or mellor on the bench. Any 2 from 3. Gelling to miss out i think.

Lockers out of 19 man squad, Logan Tomkins replaces him.

no lockers or farrell....mmmmm a big hole to fill there then

So what is going to happen without Lockers? Have 3 props (Prescott, Lima and Dudson) and leave Hansen, Hock, Tuson and Hughes to play in the back row?

I suppose he could play Gelling in the back row but his defence really doesn't fill me with much confidence.

He could also play Mike McIlorum at loose forward, Leuluai at hooker with Mellor in the halves.

Lockers out is a disaster.

That means Tuson to start at 13, hughes or gelling in 2nd row, logan on to bench to spell micky mac.

So who would you play in 2nd row, hughes or gelling?

Siege mentality tomorrow. I think I'd possibly run with tommy at 9 and macca at 13. At least we know mcillorum will get through bags of work in defence.

1. Sam tomkins
2. Josh charnley
3. Darrell goulding
4. George carmont
5. Pat richards
6. Brett Finch
7. Joe Mellor
8. Paul Prescott
9. Tommy Leuluai
10. Harrison Hansen
11. Gareth Hock
12. Chris Tuson
13. Mike McIllorum

14. Jeff Lima
15. Gil Dudson
16. Jack Hughes
17. Logan Tomkins

Stick Hock at 13

he has excelled in that position before. Will also allow him to free roam as he sees fit.

How do we know Spencer definitely injured? Looked fine walking around the GA yesterday

that would fill me with most confidence, but is risky and i cant see it happening.