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| She would be a stain on your club . Politicians are hell bent on destroying our culture and society , keep her well away .
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| I have no time for her either (in fact I refused to vote for Labour, largely as a result of her witless mouthings). She is the Minister for Sport, and we currently have male XY boxers in a ring with women at the Olympics. and all we hear from her is a deafening silence. But I just wondered whether there was some particular issue here. I agree we can manage fine without her.
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| Quote moto748="moto748"I have no time for her either (in fact I refused to vote for Labour, largely as a result of her witless mouthings). She is the Minister for Sport, and we currently have male XY boxers in a ring with women at the Olympics. and all we hear from her is a deafening silence. But I just wondered whether there was some particular issue here. I agree we can manage fine without her.'"
What do you actually expect her to come out and say?
They have legally qualified under the IOC rules.
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| Quote moto748="moto748"I have no time for her either (in fact I refused to vote for Labour, largely as a result of her witless mouthings). She is the Minister for Sport, and we currently have male XY boxers in a ring with women at the Olympics. and all we hear from her is a deafening silence. But I just wondered whether there was some particular issue here. I agree we can manage fine without her.'"
"It was an incredibly uncomfortable watch for the 46 seconds that it lasted and I know there is a lot of concern about women competitors about whether we are getting the balance right in not just in boxing but other sports as well," Lisa Nandy, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.
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Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"What do you actually expect her to come out and say?
They have legally qualified under the IOC rules.'"
Correct
And the IBA have a lot of their own questions to answer on lots of subjects
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjo8YFXsrQ
Detailed explanation they said ???
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Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"What do you actually expect her to come out and say?
They have legally qualified under the IOC rules.'"
Correct
And the IBA have a lot of their own questions to answer on lots of subjects
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pqjo8YFXsrQ
Detailed explanation they said ???
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays""It was an incredibly uncomfortable watch for the 46 seconds that it lasted and I know there is a lot of concern about women competitors about whether we are getting the balance right in not just in boxing but other sports as well," Lisa Nandy, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.'"
Is this the same Lisa Nandy who said, "I think trans women are women, I think trans men are men, so I think they should be accommodated in a prison of their choosing" ?
https://whatisawomanuk.com/mp/lisa-nandy/
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Quote Jukesays="Jukesays""It was an incredibly uncomfortable watch for the 46 seconds that it lasted and I know there is a lot of concern about women competitors about whether we are getting the balance right in not just in boxing but other sports as well," Lisa Nandy, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport.'"
Is this the same Lisa Nandy who said, "I think trans women are women, I think trans men are men, so I think they should be accommodated in a prison of their choosing" ?
https://whatisawomanuk.com/mp/lisa-nandy/
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| Going OT, but isn't the woman an actual woman and not a trans person i.e she was born female?
If she's got naturally enhanced testosterone levels, then just no different to Phelps having double jointed bones etc. isn't sport all about maximizing the gifts you're born with?
It's like me moaning it's unfair that Bolt has more fast twitch fibers than me.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"What do you actually expect her to come out and say?
They have legally qualified under the IOC rules.'"
The IOC are clueless mate. Somebody with XY chromosomes should not be boxing against a woman, they have a distinct advantage. Even though this is boxing the IOC has a duty of care to competitors.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"Going OT, but isn't the woman an actual woman and not a trans person i.e she was born female?
If she's got naturally enhanced testosterone levels, then just no different to Phelps having double jointed bones etc. isn't sport all about maximizing the gifts you're born with?
It's like me moaning it's unfair that Bolt has more fast twitch fibers than me.'"
No. The person is an XY male with a DSD (difference in sexual development). Which means she was raised as a girl, which is fair enough. But is in fact male. And presents as male. And did not seek to overturn her ban, which you'd have any female would do. Some women have higher testosterone levels than others, but there's really no overlap with male levels. Stuff I'm reading online about "tall basketball players have an advantage over short ones" is banal, and totally missing the point.
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| Quote nathan_rugby="nathan_rugby"What do you actually expect her to come out and say?
They have legally qualified under the IOC rules.'"
As Zig said, I expect her to say that XY boxers in a ring with natal females is wrong. This is a government that (rightly) was making a lot of noise just the other day about epidemic levels of Violence Against Women and Girls.
The IOC rules are, anyone with an F on their passport. In many countries these days, changing the sex marker on your passport is a simple matter, pay a few Euros, and it's sorted.
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