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| whilst i'm not as angry as southstander, matt king's big ing grin with mogg was right in front of where i was, and of the several ppl surrounding me, it got everyone's back up.
Likewise, the booing, to go 2 scores down against 12 men, bizarre and shocking, you'd have thought we were down to 12.
you know you shouldn't boo, but me, we're not allowed to swear as it's a community stadium, is booing going to be outlawed next week?
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| booing is stupid. its not going to help improve the teams confidence.
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| Quote ="i hate pies"booing is stupid. its not going to help improve the teams confidence.'"
playing e isn't improve confidence and morale in the paying customers.
i just hope lowe or gatcliffe don't come out and use the noble defence of last night.
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| Quote ="Rictoria Cat"playing poop isn't improve confidence and morale in the paying customers.
i just hope lowe or gatcliffe don't come out and use the noble defence of last night.'"
the point i'm making is if your a true fan you should stick with the team no matter how bad things get, and do what you can to boost confidence.
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| Quote ="i hate pies"the point i'm making is if your a true fan you should stick with the team no matter how bad things get, and do what you can to boost confidence.'"
Right, i'm off to monaghan and kings places of residence where upon i'm gonna chain them both to respective radiators to prevent them from playing next week.
That's obviously a joke for all you humourless people and wannabe lawyers out there.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"What are people's opinions on this.
Although most of the team were pathetic for most of the game, were only 2 games in and i don't think that booing is the answer, obviously it makes people feel better and they pay there money etc etc.
One bloke next to me turned around and smacked another bloke for booing, i mean for god sake what's that all about.'"
Yes, we're only two games in, but the problems affecting us go way further back. The off-season has done nothing to resolve them, it would seem.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"What are people's opinions on this.
Although most of the team were pathetic for most of the game, were only 2 games in and i don't think that booing is the answer, obviously it makes people feel better and they pay there money etc etc.
One bloke next to me turned around and smacked another bloke for booing, i mean for god sake what's that all about.'"
I never have and never will boo the team. I started on a thread on this when people were booing after the friendly defeat against Hull KR.
Yes tonight was a massive let down but booing the team can never have a positive effect.
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| Quote ="i hate pies"the point i'm making is if your a true fan you should stick with the team no matter how bad things get, and do what you can to boost confidence.'"
Not really, every fan is different and have different ways to deal with their problems. Just because somebody isn't a sunshiner, doesn't mean they're not a true fan.
I don't boo myself and I never have done, but if it's justified, then I can accept others booing, and I won't class them any less of a fan.
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| Quote ="Rictoria Cat"Right, i'm off to monaghan and kings places of residence where upon i'm gonna chain them both to respective radiators to prevent them from playing next week.
That's obviously a joke for all you humourless people and wannabe lawyers out there.'"
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| Quote ="i hate pies"the point i'm making is if your a true fan you should stick with the team no matter how bad things get, and do what you can to boost confidence.'"
God, enough of this "true fan" e.
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| isn't silence enough just walk out before the end or after the end, the players know they have lost, its not like they are going to be told in the changing rooms that they not performed, but then it makes you feel better then Boo
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| Booooooooooooooooooooo!
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| we can boo if we want the majority of people there including myself are probably struggling with money yet they still pay alot of money to watch them play like that have we won a game since lowes was given an extra year contract?
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| I just left at 28 - 20 because I could see that more misery was coming.
I usually stay right to the end whatever the score, but this time I couldn't take anymore.
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| Too busy contemplating the depths of deja vu to boo.
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| I didn't and don't boo but that's my choice.
Keep the faith Wire.....
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| I don't boo either, TBH towards the end of tonight's game like a few last year I was almost apathetic about the whole thing, we've seen it too many times.
Most people booing are just frustrated. It's some of the player's currently representing the club and their percieved lack of effort that people are fed up with.
People can generally accept losing to a team that outclasses you desite your best efforts - that's not what happened tonight. Catalan barely had to work for most of their tries. The result tonight was far worse than the playoff defeat.
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| Quote ="ABO"I don't boo either, TBH towards the end of tonight's game like a few last year I was almost apathetic about the whole thing, we've seen it too many times.
Most people booing are just frustrated. It's some of the player's currently representing the club and their percieved lack of effort that people are fed up with.
People can generally accept losing to a team that outclasses you desite your best efforts - that's not what happened tonight. Catalan barely had to work for most of their tries. The result tonight was far worse than the playoff defeat.'" Apart from 1 set in the first 5 minutes, I cannot remember Catalans getting into our 20 and not coming away with a try.
WHere the hell is the goalline defence? That was wprse than last year! Paul Wood is incapable near the line, and was quite rightly dragged off, but there are plenty who are as bad.
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"He was laughing at his bank balance and the mugs that pay him'"
Yes. If I were Lowes and had seen him laughing it up I would put my boot through his ar$e.
Clearly doesn't give a monkeys about the club or the fans and he isn't the only one.
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| Quote ="Southstander05"Sorry but simply can't agree.
I've not played at professional level, but have played to a pretty decent standard (football), but even when I've played against drinking mates and lost, never could I, after the whistle has gone, break into a smile, and start jollying with the opposition. I would have got lashed in the changing rooms by my team mates, as it would have said ' I don't give a ... lads, just here for the laugh'
Showed him for what he is, a thieving Aussie who couldn't give two.....'"
I've played and still play at a decent level in RU and played for some pretty decent RL clubs, but applauding your mate for doing well and showing some sportsmanship, which we all pride ourselves on, is not disrespectful in my eyes. My teammates, the ones who I actually wanna play my heart out for, know that I always give 110% even if the stuff I do doesn't always come off on the day, and they see that when I'm in the gym 2 hours before training. It's my way of coping with a loss, there's no point in taking it out on your mates, your opposite number, on the opposite side; if they've done a damn good job, I'm gonna let them know it. And I'll also let 'em know that they're not in for such an easy ride next time. King can't do anything right in this team. Even if he doesn't have a bad game, which, tbf, he didn't because he was starved of the ball for the majority, he gets ripped from all sides. You're right, burn the bloke for sportsmanship. How dare he show it. That's not what our team is about...
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| It makes a change for some other club getting our cast offs for a change!instead of the other way round!Lowes weren't good enough for us,so he defo can't be good enough for the mighty wire!!
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| Wigan have made a pretty crap start but the only saving grace is that Warrington are below them in the league!
Seriously though how is it that teams like Wigan and Warrington can play so bad after all the pre season training and hype about improved squads etc? Are they over trained? I dunno but it beats me.
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| Quote ="Legless"I've played and still play at a decent level in RU and played for some pretty decent RL clubs, but applauding your mate for doing well and showing some sportsmanship, which we all pride ourselves on, is not disrespectful in my eyes. My teammates, the ones who I actually wanna play my heart out for, know that I always give 110% even if the stuff I do doesn't always come off on the day, and they see that when I'm in the gym 2 hours before training. It's my way of coping with a loss, there's no point in taking it out on your mates, your opposite number, on the opposite side; if they've done a damn good job, I'm gonna let them know it. And I'll also let 'em know that they're not in for such an easy ride next time. King can't do anything right in this team. Even if he doesn't have a bad game, which, tbf, he didn't because he was starved of the ball for the majority, he gets ripped from all sides. You're right, burn the bloke for sportsmanship. How dare he show it. That's not what our team is about...'"
Sorry, when did you start talking about kevin penny?
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| Quote ="nohalfbacks"Wigan have made a pretty crap start but the only saving grace is that Warrington are below them in the league!
Seriously though how is it that teams like Wigan and Warrington can play so bad after all the pre season training and hype about improved squads etc? Are they over trained? I dunno but it beats me.'"
To much bulle coaching thats how.
The game is simple, so keep it that way. There is nothing wrong with 5 drives and a kick if it gets you a result as this is a results business for any club or coach, that might be different for the fans but if you have played 2 and won 2 with 5 drives and a kick instead of lost 2 like now then would Jimmy be so bad as a coach?
You can win games playing at pace just off the back of the ruck but players need to be coached to do that effectively, like I said just to much bulle coaching going on in SL right now at both Wigan and Warrington.
With the players in both squads at Wigan and Wire then you would hope that both teams are more than capable of a top 4 finish, right now its looking like bottom four.
I can't believe how much ball Wire put on the floor last night, its simple really, if your not capable of putting 3 passes together just make 2, if you can't do that just make 1 and if you can't do that run it from dummy half.
And as a nation we wonder why we can't be the Aussies!!!!
Simple............Basic.............Fast..............Effective rugby league is all any team ever needs to play to win a game.
Example............................
We have the ball in our own 20........................
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Exit our 20..................................
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Limit our risk......................
Keep passes to a minimum....................
Find centre field...............................Gives options later in the set
Make defensive line work..................Stops easy tackles by marker defence, makes all players work, no time for recouperation
Find the floor once tackled................................Allows quick PTB, punishes unorganised, lazy, tired defence.
Centre field position on 5.................kick options left or right
Jeez........................I should be a coach!!!
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