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| Quote ="Milly"Going by your question, you didn't go. Your location says Callands, so how do you get your running costs so far as £225 for Saints away?
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I did go, got there just as the teams were coming out for the kickoff and didn't hear the lineup, thats what I want to know. I know Riley was fullback and Penny on one wing.
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| Quote ="eddie gordo"You're not reading Cockers.
I'm not writing Johnson off. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of RL can surely see he's too slow to play in the centres now. He's strong and runs the ball in hard, he should be in the second row or interchange with the forwards from the bench - centre, no way. Saints moved Gilmour from second row to centre and he skinned Johnson the first time he got a run at him.
My worry is that Lowes will play him on the wing instead of Penny next weekend
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I do think you are being slightly harsh on him getting skinned the other night, as Gilmour is no slouch.
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| Quote ="COCKNEY GIANT"Only one change needed from Wire and that is the coach.'"
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Bridge needs to come in for Briers[size=150 until we sign Myler from Salford[/size.'"
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| Quote ="Mighty Wires"Aye pal, since Gleeson looks to be unavailable I think Lowes may choose to play Bridge rather than Penny now. I most definatley agree Bridge needs more time and should be played bit by bit, after such bad spell of injuries.'"
i'd happily have bridge at centre, i've advocated that for a while , i like his in out and away(one out of JWP's book).
Although, in a sort of perverse fashion i'd also quite like to shove matt king over to right centre, anything to get him away from penny, give him a go on the right and see if he's any good there.
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| Quote ="Rictoria Cat"i'd happily have bridge at centre, i've advocated that for a while , i like his in out and away(one out of JWP's book).
Although, in a sort of perverse fashion i'd also quite like to shove matt king over to right centre, anything to get him away from penny, give him a go on the right and see if he's any good there.'"
Having re-read Mike Gregory's book the other week, I'm pretty sure Bridge played in the centres when England Academy beat the Australians (Mathers was stand off). That's a fair while ago though, and he's not played there since. Centre is a pretty specialist position, so it may take him a few games to get into it. However, should Gleeson be out for a longer spell, perhaps worth a go.
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| Quote ="Couch Potato"I'm pretty sure Bridge played in the centres when England Academy beat the Australians (Mathers was stand off). That's a fair while ago though, and he's not played there since. '"
Bridge has played centre for Warrington quite a few times including 20mins on Friday.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Bridge has played centre for Warrington quite a few times including 20mins on Friday.'"
I stand corrected, the only one that comes readily to mind is the last time we played Salford on Good Friday, couple of years ago?.
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| Quote ="Couch Potato"Having re-read Mike Gregory's book the other week, I'm pretty sure Bridge played in the centres when England Academy beat the Australians (Mathers was stand off). That's a fair while ago though, and he's not played there since. Centre is a pretty specialist position, so it may take him a few games to get into it. However, should Gleeson be out for a longer spell, perhaps worth a go.'"
Correct. Bridge did play centre.
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"I really hope they don't drop Reily. He actually earned his place last night.'"
Doesn't he play for Huddersfield?
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| Quote ="Dave T"I agree with most of this, I don't like the idea of Johnson in the three-quarters. He can cover there if needed, but not as one of our starting players.
I do think you are being slightly harsh on him getting skinned the other night, as Gilmour is no slouch.'"
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| Quote ="mark_m"Correct. Bridge did play centre.'" I was under the impression Cullen played him there for a while as he desperatly wanted to try and fit him in somewhere.
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| Quote ="Foz"I was under the impression Cullen played him there for a while as he desperatly wanted to try and fit him in somewhere.'"
Possible. But Bridge played a lot of his youth rugby as a centre and played as centre when the team he was in beat the Australian schoolboys.
Therefore maybe his best position is in fact centre.
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| Quote ="Foz"I was under the impression Cullen played him there for a while as he desperatly wanted to try and fit him in somewhere.'"
No not at centre, Cullen played him on the wing because Nat Wood and Briers were the backs and then Sullivan, until Sullivan got moved to Hooker and then Bridge took his place, he played nearly all year on the wing i think.
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| The overwhelming conclusion seems to be that, when fully fit, he is a talent that you try and get in the team somewhere (when he was in on the wing in 2005 I think Cullen said something along those lines).
The key for him is coming back, getting a run of games, match fitness and confidence under his belt. I think long term he is a six, but certainly talented enough to play anywhere in the back line.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"No not at centre, Cullen played him on the wing because Nat Wood and Briers were the backs and then Sullivan, until Sullivan got moved to Hooker and then Bridge took his place, he played nearly all year on the wing i think.'"
He played a bit of 2005 on the wing, I think we wanted him to kick goals as Briers had gone really poor. We had Nathan Wood at 7, then Joey came at the back end. Bridge had a blinder at Hull away when Joey played from the wing, he made a break and put Toa in.
2006 he played halfback really, Sullivan played the opening fixture against Salford and Cull didn't fancy him at halfback then, quickly.
Bridge had a pretty good game at centre in 2007, Salford away, the game where Salford came back in the last few minutes, left centre he was, I remember him giving Grose a flick pass in the first half, looked quality. I recall coming on here and the vibe being that he'd make a quality left centre. I also remember the first time I saw him play, for Bradford, he scored a belting try at Odsal against us, from left centre. He jinked from halfway and scored in the left corner, cracking try it was. Left centre is definately an option for Bridge, you could try on King on the right, or shock of all shocks, leave him out.
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| Quote ="JWP"He played a bit of 2005 on the wing'"
He played on the wing for most of 2005, i agree he would make a good centre but i would put him in place of Briers for a couple of games and see how we shape first.
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| Quote ="The All New Chester Wire"Maybe Clarke will be back too....'"
I think he has a few more weeks yet.
I think Vanderson will go to loose, Blythe a sub with Rau, Wood and Harrison. Johnson on the wing with King and Bridge on the right centre with Hicks covering the wing.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"He played on the wing for most of 2005.'"
Only the part he was involved in is my point, he didn't start 2005. He was injured when he came, he'd had an op' IIRC. Wood & Briers were at halfback, to get into the side he had to play on the wing, and was picked for his goalkicking. He played the odd game in the halves, but was mainly on the wing, I'd reckon circa 15 appearances that season in total. 2006 Onwards he was primarily at six, the 'left' halfback. The odd game, the one i've mentioned at Salford at centre.
I wouldn't be against easing him back in on the wing, not at all. I'd rather he played left centre though, it'd get that wate of time out of the side.
Briers wasn't a problem on Friday, your caning the wrong people. He was decent, his kicking game was okay too, you seem to think it wasn't. The only time he kicked badly, was when he was given crap ball on the last, when we'd struggled to get out of our own forty, he was forced to kick with his left foot under pressure and daft stuff like that. This is what's starting to bug me with you, you hammer Briers but not Monaghan, and you fix would be to drop Briers, when Monas was far, far worse. You advocate Penny dropping out, when again, King was far, far worse.
Do you drink Australian, think Australian and all that ...
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| Quote ="JWP"Only the part he was involved in is my point, he didn't start 2005. He was injured when he came, he'd had an op' IIRC. Wood & Briers were at halfback, to get into the side he had to play on the wing, and was picked for his goalkicking. He played the odd game in the halves, but was mainly on the wing, I'd reckon circa 15 appearances that season in total. 2006 Onwards he was primarily at six, the 'left' halfback. The odd game, the one i've mentioned at Salford at centre.
I wouldn't be against easing him back in on the wing, not at all. I'd rather he played left centre though, it'd get that wate of time out of the side.'"
Well i think he's had enough game time know to start him against Catalans.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"He played on the wing for most of 2005, i agree he would make a good centre but i would put him in place of Briers for a couple of games and see how we shape first.'" He didn't play most of the year on the wing in 2005.
He played:
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So he actually played most of his games in the halves.
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Quote ="Dave T"He didn't play most of the year on the wing in 2005.
He played:
4 at Scrum Half
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So he actually played most of his games in the halves.'"
Your wrong.
Me and JWP are correct.
Her you go.
www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/ap ... ue.comment
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He played:
4 at Scrum Half
7 at Stand Off
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So he actually played most of his games in the halves.'"
Your wrong.
Me and JWP are correct.
Her you go.
www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2006/ap ... ue.comment
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| Quote ="JWP"Only the part he was involved in is my point, he didn't start 2005. He was injured when he came, he'd had an op' IIRC. Wood & Briers were at halfback, to get into the side he had to play on the wing, and was picked for his goalkicking. He played the odd game in the halves, but was mainly on the wing, I'd reckon circa 15 appearances that season in total. 2006 Onwards he was primarily at six, the 'left' halfback. The odd game, the one i've mentioned at Salford at centre.
I wouldn't be against easing him back in on the wing, not at all. I'd rather he played left centre though, it'd get that wate of time out of the side.
Briers wasn't a problem on Friday, your caning the wrong people. He was decent, his kicking game was okay too, you seem to think it wasn't. The only time he kicked badly, was when he was given crap ball on the last, when we'd struggled to get out of our own forty, he was forced to kick with his left foot under pressure and daft stuff like that. This is what's starting to bug me with you, you hammer Briers but not Monaghan, and you fix would be to drop Briers, when Monas was far, far worse. You advocate Penny dropping out, when again, King was far, far worse.
Do you drink Australian, think Australian and all that ...'"
Typical of our crowd to fumble with their bits over imports but then continually bag British (and especially local) players.
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Come back when you have done a little research, and not just quoted an article from a rival coach (who is wrong)
You quote the games he played wing, and I will quote the games he played in the halves.
Do you think I just made those stats up?
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Come back when you have done a little research, and not just quoted an article from a rival coach (who is wrong)
You quote the games he played wing, and I will quote the games he played in the halves.
Do you think I just made those stats up?
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| Quote ="JWP"Briers wasn't a problem on Friday, your caning the wrong people. He was decent, his kicking game was okay too, you seem to think it wasn't. The only time he kicked badly, was when he was given crap ball on the last, when we'd struggled to get out of our own forty, he was forced to kick with his left foot under pressure and daft stuff like that. This is what's starting to bug me with you, you hammer Briers but not Monaghan, and you fix would be to drop Briers, when Monas was far, far worse. You advocate Penny dropping out, when again, King was far, far worse. '"
Most of the Briers kicks went straight to Wellens, apart from 1 little kick through i cant see any kicking game.
I also believe Monaghan would be a better player without Briers on the field and that's why i wont Briers dropped.
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