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| Assuming we picked up no injuries, and nobody will be back...
As long as Riley continues as he played last night, then the fullback position should be his.
Johnson is no longer a back, and the sooner Gleeson returns and PJ can return to the pack/bench the better.
Penny has become many peoples scapegoat for inadequacies elsewhere, but I don't believe he deserves to be dropped.
Sadly although King is still failing to deliver, there are currently no better options at the club unless he is moved onto the wing. (I would love to give him a run outside Gleeson when he's back).
I've all but given up on believing Monas is actually a halfback. IMO he should be the starting hooker with Higham coming off the bench. Bridge and Briers should be the halfback combo. If he doesn't like going back to the hooking role then I'm sure a release could be negotiated from his contract leaving him free to go home and freeing up a chunk of cap to spend elsewhere.
For Catalan (assuming same players available)
Riley
Hicks
Johnson (reluctantly)
King (very reluctantly)
Penny
Bridge
Briers
Morley
Monaghan
Carvell
Westwood
LAnderson
Blythe
Rauhihi
Wood
Higham
Harrison
And when/if everyone is fit
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King
Gleeson
VAnderson
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Monaghan
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Blythe
Rauhihi
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| Quote ="Briers Is God"Who played yesterday?'"
Going by your question, you didn't go. Your location says Callands, so how do you get your running costs so far as £225 for Saints away?
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| The only change I'd expect to see is Vinnie Anderson back in the side, Blythe to the bench and then maybe Bridge to miss out. I don't know the reserves fixtures, but we could do with a couple quickly to really get some mileage into Bridge, it's atough ask to just pick up where you left off.
Even with the poor display King put in, I'd afford him a couple more games to put things right, but it's daft talk, as he won't get dropped full stop, right now, in my eyes he's candidate no#1 for the chop. We all know in reality that if there is to be a scapegoat then the likelyhood is that Lowes will select Penny, and to be honest, I'll find that really hard to swallow.
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| Quote ="JWP"The only change I'd expect to see is Vinnie Anderson back in the side, Blythe to the bench and then maybe Bridge to miss out. I don't know the reserves fixtures, but we could do with a couple quickly to really get some mileage into Bridge, it's atough ask to just pick up where you left off.
Even with the poor display King put in, I'd afford him a couple more games to put things right, but it's daft talk, as he won't get dropped full stop, right now, in my eyes he's candidate no#1 for the chop. We all know in reality that if there is to be a scapegoat then the likelyhood is that Lowes will select Penny, and to be honest, I'll find that really hard to swallow.'"
On the point about King, i agree he should get the chop if he continues to play so poorly. However Lowes will definatley select to drop Penny ahead of King.
Starting line-up next week I'd expect Lowes to go:
Riley
Hicks
Gleeson (if fit)
King
Johnson
Briers
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Carvell
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Moz
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| Quote ="Mighty Wires"On the point about King, i agree he should get the chop if he continues to play so poorly. However Lowes will definatley select to drop Penny ahead of King.
Starting line-up next week I'd expect Lowes to go:
Riley
Hicks
Gleeson (if fit)
King
Johnson
Briers
Monas
Carvell
Higham
Moz
Westwood
Landerson
Vanderson
Bench:
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Rah
Blyth
Bridge'"
Sadly, I think you may be right. I wouldn't be surprised to see that 17. I suspect that Gleeson may not be fit, so that gives you an issue at right centre, do you leave PJ there or rush Bridge back quicker than anticipated. He obviously isn't ready for this right now, but circumstance has thrust him back into the first team, and I suspect he would tell you that himself.
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| Quote ="JWP"Sadly, I think you may be right. I wouldn't be surprised to see that 17. I suspect that Gleeson may not be fit, so that gives you an issue at right centre, do you leave PJ there or rush Bridge back quicker than anticipated. He obviously isn't ready for this right now, but circumstance has thrust him back into the first team, and I suspect he would tell you that himself.'"
Aye pal, since Gleeson looks to be unavailable I think Lowes may choose to play Bridge rather than Penny now. I most definatley agree Bridge needs more time and should be played bit by bit, after such bad spell of injuries.
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| Quote ="Mighty Wires"Aye pal, since Gleeson looks to be unavailable I think Lowes may choose to play Bridge rather than Penny now. I most definatley agree Bridge needs more time and should be played bit by bit, after such bad spell of injuries.'"
Exactly, the temptation is there to kind of 'be greedy' and solve a problem by getting him back into the 17. I think we should really avoid this to be honest, it wasn't too long ago that folk were intimating that one more injury would/should see Chris & his career continuing away from Warrington. As a club, we should look after him, and ensure that he only plays SL when he's ready. I'm sure the medical staff will assess him, advise him & Jimmy and they'll all make a decision but I'd hate for this to end in tears when it was avoidable.
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"Because I don't believe one bad game should mean writing off a player'"
You're not reading Cockers.
I'm not writing Johnson off. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of RL can surely see he's too slow to play in the centres now. He's strong and runs the ball in hard, he should be in the second row or interchange with the forwards from the bench - centre, no way. Saints moved Gilmour from second row to centre and he skinned Johnson the first time he got a run at him.
My worry is that Lowes will play him on the wing instead of Penny next weekend
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| Hasn't Bridge played on't wings before?
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| He played outside Toa in the back end of his first season (2005), we won pretty much all those games
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| I'm not saying we should play him there now, but with his fitness still short, surely it would be easier for him on the wing, than at 1/3/6?
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| Quote ="Milly"Going by your question, you didn't go. Your location says Callands, so how do you get your running costs so far as £225 for Saints away?
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I did go, got there just as the teams were coming out for the kickoff and didn't hear the lineup, thats what I want to know. I know Riley was fullback and Penny on one wing.
£171 for season ticket, £15 for Saints ticket (got a lift there so no transport costs) and Swinton was the rest for ticket and transport
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| Quote ="eddie gordo"You're not reading Cockers.
I'm not writing Johnson off. Anyone with even a basic knowledge of RL can surely see he's too slow to play in the centres now. He's strong and runs the ball in hard, he should be in the second row or interchange with the forwards from the bench - centre, no way. Saints moved Gilmour from second row to centre and he skinned Johnson the first time he got a run at him.
My worry is that Lowes will play him on the wing instead of Penny next weekend
'" I agree with most of this, I don't like the idea of Johnson in the three-quarters. He can cover there if needed, but not as one of our starting players.
I do think you are being slightly harsh on him getting skinned the other night, as Gilmour is no slouch.
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| Quote ="COCKNEY GIANT"Only one change needed from Wire and that is the coach.'"
very true and his backroom staff...
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Bridge needs to come in for Briers[size=150 until we sign Myler from Salford[/size.'"
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| Quote ="Mighty Wires"Aye pal, since Gleeson looks to be unavailable I think Lowes may choose to play Bridge rather than Penny now. I most definatley agree Bridge needs more time and should be played bit by bit, after such bad spell of injuries.'"
i'd happily have bridge at centre, i've advocated that for a while , i like his in out and away(one out of JWP's book).
Although, in a sort of perverse fashion i'd also quite like to shove matt king over to right centre, anything to get him away from penny, give him a go on the right and see if he's any good there.
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| Quote ="Rictoria Cat"i'd happily have bridge at centre, i've advocated that for a while , i like his in out and away(one out of JWP's book).
Although, in a sort of perverse fashion i'd also quite like to shove matt king over to right centre, anything to get him away from penny, give him a go on the right and see if he's any good there.'"
Having re-read Mike Gregory's book the other week, I'm pretty sure Bridge played in the centres when England Academy beat the Australians (Mathers was stand off). That's a fair while ago though, and he's not played there since. Centre is a pretty specialist position, so it may take him a few games to get into it. However, should Gleeson be out for a longer spell, perhaps worth a go.
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| Quote ="Couch Potato"I'm pretty sure Bridge played in the centres when England Academy beat the Australians (Mathers was stand off). That's a fair while ago though, and he's not played there since. '"
Bridge has played centre for Warrington quite a few times including 20mins on Friday.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"Bridge has played centre for Warrington quite a few times including 20mins on Friday.'"
I stand corrected, the only one that comes readily to mind is the last time we played Salford on Good Friday, couple of years ago?.
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| Quote ="Couch Potato"Having re-read Mike Gregory's book the other week, I'm pretty sure Bridge played in the centres when England Academy beat the Australians (Mathers was stand off). That's a fair while ago though, and he's not played there since. Centre is a pretty specialist position, so it may take him a few games to get into it. However, should Gleeson be out for a longer spell, perhaps worth a go.'"
Correct. Bridge did play centre.
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"I really hope they don't drop Reily. He actually earned his place last night.'"
Doesn't he play for Huddersfield?
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| Quote ="Dave T"I agree with most of this, I don't like the idea of Johnson in the three-quarters. He can cover there if needed, but not as one of our starting players.
I do think you are being slightly harsh on him getting skinned the other night, as Gilmour is no slouch.'"
...and PJ is on his way back after knee reconstruction.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Correct. Bridge did play centre.'" I was under the impression Cullen played him there for a while as he desperatly wanted to try and fit him in somewhere.
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| Quote ="Foz"I was under the impression Cullen played him there for a while as he desperatly wanted to try and fit him in somewhere.'"
Possible. But Bridge played a lot of his youth rugby as a centre and played as centre when the team he was in beat the Australian schoolboys.
Therefore maybe his best position is in fact centre.
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| Quote ="Foz"I was under the impression Cullen played him there for a while as he desperatly wanted to try and fit him in somewhere.'"
No not at centre, Cullen played him on the wing because Nat Wood and Briers were the backs and then Sullivan, until Sullivan got moved to Hooker and then Bridge took his place, he played nearly all year on the wing i think.
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