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I wrote an essay along similar lines about changing to summer rugby and the impact of Sky Sports on the game when I was at University. Get hold of a book called To Jerusalem And Back by Simon Kelner, it will be very useful for your purposes. I wrote to every club in the league back in 1997/8 when I did it and the only replies I got were from Castleford and St. Helens. Richard Wright at Castleford wrote me a letter 3 pages long. If you want to get in touch with anyone, both clubs were very helpful to me then, so I'll suggest them as a place to start. Good luck with your work.

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Quote: Walshovski "In one part he derides daft nicknames on clubs and say it would be awful in Rugby League. Thankfully he died shortly after.'"


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Quote: GT "There's also a lot of unrest amongst Yorkshire CCC's Members that there's a spanking new facility in the ground that they can only use a couple of times a season when the powers that be deem them worthy. Looking at the way Lancs have treated their Members recently and the use of The Point, I can understand that completely.'"



What exactly is the arrangement at Headingley? And what exactly is the new facility used for (besides terracing)?

Oh, 3rd question, highlighting my lack of knowledge yet further, what has happened at Lancs?

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Quote: Walshovski "Again slightly off topic (but a point worth making) RL is unique amongst sports for the way its history is recorded. I think I'm right in saying no books, or maybe two at most, (save for official handbooks) were published about the sport until well after the second world war. I think Risman's autobiography was one of the first ones published and it slowly built from there with people like EM Waring. Similarly, no official records existed for the sport until Irvin Saxton and the rest got started compliling them in the 1970s. It just wasn't viewed as a necessity which again says things about how the sport viewed itself. There are still games in Salford's history where a complete record of the team that played doesn't exist.

I don't think this should be viewed as a negative though, on the contrary it adds something to the way people look at and remember the sport.

Back on topic, the two books by Geoffrey Moorhouse are a good resource for your project as well. At the George and other essays on Rugby League and The People's Game I think they are called. Both written just before Super League and touch on some of the subjects that will no doubt be covered by your essay. In one part he derides daft nicknames on clubs and say it would be awful in Rugby League. Thankfully he died shortly after. Moorhouse is a cracking writer as well.'"


You're not far off there. According to Tony Collins, Risman's guide to rules of Rugby League (I can't remember the exact title) was the first book written on RL, although I believe it was written in 1937. I'll check that and get back to you.

I agree that it isn't necessarily a negative although the lack of literature, in particular academic literature, has certainly resulted in a lack of a voice in some important circles. The power of the written word is dominant in western cultures and as such, RL is somewhat incapacitated. However, the culture of RL in this respect is unique in that it can be viewed as a positive. If anything, it is a reflection of the folklore culture of the game. Which I see as like a castle or fort; culturally rich but limited in terms of potential wealth-creation and expansion by its own impermeable walls. I guess you're saying the same?

Cheers for those resources. I'm sure they will be perfect for what I'm trying to demonstrate.

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Quote: Walshovski "I don't think this should be viewed as a negative though, on the contrary it adds something to the way people look at and remember the sport.'"


Just shows the progression of the sentiment for sport from a pastime to, in extreme cases, a matter of life or death. You could say early rugby league stalwarts were more likely to be averse to chronicling the game because they sought to disown anything that happened before the meeting at The George Hotel. This jettisoning of history is an issue with early books on RL club histories.

By the way a second-hand copy of Moorhouses's [iAt The George[/i is available for 1p on Amazon.

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Quote: Chico "

By the way a second-hand copy of Moorhouses's [iAt The George[/i is available for 1p on Amazon.'"


Bargain. On my doormat by Tuesday. icon_thumb.gif

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