I seriously think the club now, with the imminent move to Wrexham, have a great chance of getting a SL place the next time around.

The ground is better than a lot of grounds in the SL and is no longer a problem. I believe Nobby and Co will improve things on the field. I also think the 30 odd miles away from Widnes still makes the club an expansion club regardless of the clubs close by based on previous RFL criteria of being 20 miles away from another club earning a point.

The big stumbling block will be crowds. I do believe though with 3,000 home fans the club will average well over 4,000 and would be foot in next time as long as they are run on a decent financial footing.

I am quietly confident now the people who were involved previously will no doubt be gone they will achieve this and a place in SL next time around.

Hope your right mate but the best best was in South Wales. Im predicting a grim tale sadly.

Again, hope im wrong but there is simply no need, desire, want for a SL club in Wrexham and every reason to have one in South Wales

I dunno...
They wont be doing what they were intended to and in that case you've got to assess them really in the same bracket as a widnes or Halifax.
It's alright saying oh look we're 30 miles away on a map but if Widnes could bring double the fans in (both home and away) and have equal facilities, as big a local population and quite the heritage then...
It's not exactly like Wrexham is spreading the game to the majority of Wales

If the RFL allow the move its a smack in the face for so called expansion. 30 miles from Widnes, Wire, Saints etc is hardly going to generate new interest, if there is an interest in RL they will already be making the short trip to these clubs already.

Once again, the Welsh experiment is doomed to failure, lets cut our losses and get Widnes in.

I understand what you are saying but other than it being a lot closer to the other clubs it is a big step up in facilities etc.

I believe South Wales to be the best chance for RL in Wales but if Wrexham is our only opportunity for the time being then that is what we have to go with.

Hopefully one day Crusaders can come home to South Wales again without the pillocks at the club at the moment.

They got in on location, I told Leigh to play a season in Coventry then move back................Franchising is turning out to be the joke many saw at the time. End it now and bring back sanity.
Protecting loss making business's via the 3 years isnt working, we still go for quick fix and lose a fortune, only now its killing the division below

And what's frustrating rover is that it didn't NEED to fail.

A bit of stubborness in adversity was required. But management blinked.

Well I SAY blinked. What I mean was caved in crying like a little girl and ran open armed, clutching at the first (well, second) cheque book that opened.

Its not the only opportunity tho. Go back to Championship, regroup, remarket and build solid foundations. Just dont keep moving and stick to what the purpose of the club is. How you Crusaders fans must be feeling god only knows. You have my every sympathy. I was in the North East when the people their lost their club too

Hopefully Crusaders can settle down now and carry on without any of these major problems. If things calm down and they get some results they will go ok. Of course they now need to build a fan base in a big football area.

I also believe they are still considered an expansion team. People have said expansion should have a sensible approach and we should expand carefully outward from the heartlands down to the south. Well despite being 30 odd miles from Widnes this is still expansion. They are going into a place with no RL after all. It's a chance in one of the many areas which is close to the heartlands but couldnt give a toss about rugby league.

STABILITY that is Crusaders word for the day.

I completely disagree maurice.
The Championship was extremely vibrant this year and I think the stability could do some good. Cas are the perfect example of what a 3 year window allows you, they didn't need to go panic buying last year and they're better off now.



Agree completely.
Better get back asap though

Definitely Ash. It is not ideal but it is expansion of sorts and is in line with what the Hull KR fan posted about sensible expansion. I don't think it is 'sensible' so to speak but is the only option at this time. And oh what would I do for stability off the field this coming season. Nothing flash. Just some progression on the field and stability off it.

Dico,

Don't think it would matter. People move on. If they came back 2011, I don't think too many people would be rushing to welcome them back.

For me I'm hoping (against reality and the RFL it seems) that there will be another team forming on my doorstep soon.

If next year my previous side realised it was wrong to dump me and that it always loved me after all, I'm afraid I will have moved on (even if I don't get my dream club).

Sorry Crusaders, it's over. Make a go of it with Moss, cos i don't want you back.

I feel reet sorry for you lot, after you've bought shirts or whatever.
Shocking the way it's happened

They might both be able to get a refund

Dico,

Sure, it sucks, but those of us who knew Samuel's track record for clearing off when the going got tough, I think we just tried to enjoy it whilst we had it.

Break-ups are never easy, but deep down I knew it wouldn't last so apart from some digs on messageboards, I'm pretty much not bothered.

More keen on getting the right new team now.

Wrexham are welcome to what's left of my ex-club.