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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"After reading that RFL statement again it seems the RFL are now agreeing that the bulls haven't been playing to the same rules with regard to cutting their cloth and shedding players when they should have done like Wakey and Cas have.'"
Good point. How have the Bulls got away with retaining so many players if they are so short of cash. Seems like they have been on the never-never for years and are looking to continue. The RFL have effectively said "enough is enough" and good on them.
They can start from scratch and prove themselves from a clean slate in Champ 1. With the move to the 3 x8's it should be a far easier prospect than it was under franchising.
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| Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Okbulls were in charge, up until they went into administration, so I imagine everything up until the 31st of January (I think) will have gone into oks attempts of clawing back some of the money he invested into the club after mark Moore announced to the world he wouldn't pay a penny back ...'"
You cant just take those peoples money and run. They'd be hung drawn and quartered on Bradford city hall steps
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| Really feel for the Bulls fans, this is just awful..
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| I do feel for the Bradford fans though.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I do feel for the Bradford fans though.'"
I think we all do. Let's face it, living in Yorkshire is enough misery all by itself without having this piled on top of it.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"After reading that RFL statement again it seems the RFL are now agreeing that the bulls haven't been playing to the same rules with regard to cutting their cloth and shedding players when they should have done like Wakey and Cas have.'"
You've got to wonder how such people would pass the fit and proper person test less than a week before it became necessary to fling at them in a public forum.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"You cant just take those peoples money and run. They'd be hung drawn and quartered on Bradford city hall steps'"
You do realise that OK Bulls went into administration?
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"Really feel for the Bulls fans, this is just awful..
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Its a nightmare. Its a real possibility that the Bulls who just 10 yrs ago were the very pinicle of the sport, could simply not exist before the end of this season
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"After reading that RFL statement again it seems the RFL are now agreeing that the bulls haven't been playing to the same rules with regard to cutting their cloth and shedding players when they should have done like Wakey and Cas have.'"
London, not Cas.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"You do realise that OK Bulls went into administration?'"
I know the actual mechanism. But If OK literally took the fans money one day without saying anything, then folded the company and pocketed the money, He'd be lynched. If Mac did it at Saints, I'd be at his door!
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| Adeybull has made a point (Unless he was joking) about TUPE.
If as we are led to believe the players were TUPE'd across to a company that no longer has any monies coming in or any connection to a RL club were in the blue hell does that leave the players.
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| Quote ="vbfg"You've got to wonder how such people would pass the fit and proper person test less than a week before it became necessary to fling poop at them in a public forum.'"
Both sides have been gambling behind the scenes. Both have lost their figurative shirts.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Adeybull has made a point (Unless he was joking) about TUPE.
If as we are led to believe the players were TUPE'd across to a company that no longer has any monies coming in or any connection to a RL club were in the blue hell does that leave the players.'"
and the other staff members.
All of these are real people with real lives, mortgages, rent, kids to feed.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"and the other staff members.
All of these are real people with real lives, mortgages, rent, kids to feed.'" Indeed.....Indeed.
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| The arrogance and sheer nerve got what it deserved in the end.
From the official Bradford Bulls website on Friday 31st January 2014 prior to being hastily deleted...
- [i"BRADFORD BULLS officials have this afternoon announced that the club will not suffer a points deduction, as a result of its former operating company entering administration. OK Bulls Ltd was placed into administration this morning but the club has since been purchased by Bradford Bulls 2014 Ltd. And, on behalf of the new board of directors, chairman Mark Moore has confirmed that the Bulls are to remain a First Utility Super League side and will start the new season on zero points"[/i.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I know the actual mechanism. But If OK literally took the fans money one day without saying anything, then folded the company and pocketed the money, He'd be lynched. If Mac did it at Saints, I'd be at his door!'"
OK didn't "fold the company". The administration was forced by one of the creditors - the loan company that Whitcut had raised money from!
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"The RFL weren’t going to buy them, the SL clubs were. Why would they do that now?
Especially in a relegation season why would Wakefield or London or anyone else who might be relegate want Bradford to survive? What would happen if Bradford, against all odds finished 12th? Would (for example) Wakefield accept being relegated when a club they part own survived?
Massive, avoidable, unnecessary clusterwhoopsie and 2 games in we get our first casualty of the return to P+R, possibly the integrity of an entire season ruined, possibly one of our biggest clubs disappearing, a whole raft of bad headlines, more uncertainty for everyone and the gloss taken from a very good start and some of the positive coverage of recent times.
Great way to capitalise on the World Cup
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Except all this started before any P&R was discussed and decided upon. You really talk complete bo77ocks.
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| Quote ="Fully"London, not Cas.'" Yes sorry my mistake.
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| Quote ="BartonFlyer"OK didn't "fold the company". The administration was forced by one of the creditors - the loan company that Whitcut had raised money from!'"
A manufactured ploy that appears to have backfired spectacularly I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Adeybull has made a point......'"
Just the one
Some of the RFL conspiracy theories on the Bulls board are a credit to loons the world over
Sad day for the fans of the club, but their season is not done yet. They should pick up 2 at the weekend, so will only be one win away from the other 2 favourites for the drop.....and there will still be 24 opportunities to get the points needed to stay up.
I'd suggest NOW is the time that the fans of Bradford Bull need to turn up to Odsal and scream themselves ho in support of their side!
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Except all this started before any P&R was discussed and decided upon. You really talk complete bo77ocks.'"
SmokeyTA wrote:The RFL weren’t going to buy them, the SL clubs were. Why would they do that now?
Especially in a relegation season why would Wakefield or London or anyone else who might be relegate want Bradford to survive? What would happen if Bradford, against all odds finished 12th? Would (for example) Wakefield accept being relegated when a club they part own survived?
Massive, avoidable, unnecessary clusterwhoopsie and 2 games in we get our first casualty of the return to P+R, possibly the integrity of an entire season ruined, possibly one of our biggest clubs disappearing, a whole raft of bad headlines, more uncertainty for everyone and the gloss taken from a very good start and some of the positive coverage of recent times.
Great way to capitalise on the World Cup
I seem to recall Back when SL started, that all the clubs in SL had an 8% in Hull FC.
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| Can someone explain please what happens if the £500k isn't provided to keep the club trading? Is it liquidation, or left to the administrator to sort out?
It does appear that any prospective owner would have to find £500k immediately and then come to an agreement with creditors. Is that correct?
Surely that isn't going to happen!
The only way to resolve it and maybe save the club seems to be to sell players.
I do hope it's sorted for the sake of the Bulls fans.
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| I am sure the Bradford players have been heartened by the faith shown in them by the erstwhile "new owners", that was only limited by their failure to believe they could overcome a 6 point deficit, which is in effect 4 as London are dead and buried already!
Is this just a convenient excuse for the new owners to get out?
And where is RHP in all this?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Just the one
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Maybe not yet, but likely to be soon. Needing £500k to continue - where's that coming from?
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| Regarding te £500k in the RFL statement, they said MM & co asked for £500k keep trading.
I asked the point earlier, would MM & CO be able to do this as the club was with the administrators at the time.
Also if they did ask for this on the 7th Feb then why the hell did the RFL ratify the takeover???
I think the £500k is basically MM asking for the other half of the SKY money.
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