1- s tomkins
2 - r hall
3 - watkins
4 - atkins
5 - charnley
6 - widdop
7 - brough
8 - carvell
9 - roby
10 - graham
11 - ellis
12 - westwood
13 - s burgess
14 - crabtree
15 - mcillorum
16 - l burgess
17 - hill

18 - heighington
19 - reed
20 - mossop
21 - goulding
22 - ratchford
23 - farrell
24 - sinfield
25 - hardaker
26 - tickle
27 - watts
28 - chase
29 - riley
30 - o'loughlin
31 - lomax
32 - harrison
33 - bateman
34 - jjb

1-17 what i would start and the rotations behind them oh and captain would be jammer

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Gareth Hock
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Luke Robinson
15. Lee Mossop
16. Eorl Crabtree
17. Ben Westwood

18. Andy Lynch
19. Chris Hill
20. LMS
21. Gareth Carvell
22. Larne Patrick
23. Jon Wilkin
24. Liam Farrell
25. Danny Tickle
26. Jonny Lomax
27. Rob Burrow
28. Stefan Ratchford
29. Tom Briscoe
30. Jodie Broughton
31. Chris Bridge
32. Darrel Goulding
33. Michael McIllorum
34. Chris Heighington

34

?!? Squad sizes for the actual tournament will be 22-25 men, probably after most nations cut down a 40 man train on squad

I think the train on squad is probably what he was referring to.

The top 25 players in form come the end of 2013 season who are fully fit and eligible with adequate cover in each position

2014 Would love to see a GB tour down under
1 Game v PNG in Port Moresby
2 Games in NZ (Auckland and Wellington)
3 Game Ashes series in Oz (Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane)

I'd be far more interested in watching that than another 4 nations.

Glad to see folks are behind Widdop getting a start in the halves. He's been in very good form this season, and has quietly gone about his business often being overshadowed by the fact he plays alongside Smith, Slater and Cronk.

I dont think him being used off the bench, as he has been in the past is the best way to utilise him.

People sometimes speak about the importance of the "triangle" (of halfback, hooker and fullback.)

With Widdop, Tomkins and a decent hooker (IMO McIllorum) I believe we have the best "triangle" in an England/GB for a number of years. All These guys have a pretty complete game with speed, the ability to kick etc

I 100% believe, we have an England Team that can compete with Australia/NZ and could possibly win the world cup. What we dont have is the strength and depth they have, so lets hope we have an injury free tournament.

Did you know that McBanana is the head coach? Although nice logic it won't happen

Widdop can't play 7.

Can't be bothered to do a full train on squad, don't they normally take 25?

Tomkins
Briscoe
Watkins
Reed
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Hock
Westwood
Ellis

Mossop
O'Loughlin
Carvell
Robinson

Heighington
Hall
Tickle
Houghton
Lomax
Crabtree
Hill
Atkins

But McNamara will pick:

Tomkins
Hall
Atkins
Reed
Charnley
Sinfield
Chase
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Hock
Ellis
O'Loughlin

Westwood
Robinson
Crabtree
Morley

Heighington's finished imo.

And Atkins is better than Reed.

thank you been saying all season reed is looking average this year and i put widdop as a 6.

also cant believe i am the only one to put luke burgess in he has been immense this year i would go as far as saying he has been better than sam

Atkins is great at club level but looks awful whenever he plays for England, Including the exiles game last week.

Luke's been more consistent but he makes stupid mistakes now and again.

A fit Sam Burgess would get in any side.

The 2013 world cup might be a year too early for George but he looks like he could be some player.

Who knows how players will develop over the next year. 4 or 5 guys who havn't even been considered might have storming seasons. Too early to pick an accurate squad.

That would be brilliant.

25 man squad for me would be:

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Ryan Hall
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Tom Briscoe
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Jonny Lomax
8. James Graham (c)
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Gareth Hock
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Luke Burgess
15. Eorl Crabtree
16. Ben Westwood
17. Jon Wilkin

18. Josh Charnley
19. Kallum Watkins
20. Lee Mossop
21. LMS
22. Chris Hill
23. JJB
24. Michael McIlorum
25. Danny Brough/Matty Smith

Saints fan?

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Reed
4. Atkins
5. Hall
6. Widdop
7. Brough
8. Sam Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. Westwood
13. O'Loughlin

14. Crabtree
15. Mossop
16. Hock
17. Robinson

18. Ratchford
19. Cudjoe/Broughton
20. Goulding
21. Watkins
22. Briscoe
23. Chase
24. Lomax
25. Carvell
26. McIlorum
27. Hill
28. Tickle
29. Jones-Buchanon
30. Sinfield
31. Patrick
32. Luke Burgess
33. Farrell
34. Burrow

At the moment.

1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Reed
4 Watkins
5 Charnley
6 Widdop
7 Brough
8 Graham
9 Roby
10 S.Burgess
11 Ellis
12 Hock
13 O'Loughin
S L.Burgess
S Mossop
S Robinson
S Morley

R Atkins
R Briscoe
R Chase
R Westwood
R Crabtree
R Burrow
R Tickle
R Hill

Tomkins
Charnley
Reed
Atkins
Hall
Widdop/Lomax
Brough/Lomax
Mossop
McIlorum
Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
Lockers

Hock - IMPACT
Graham - IMPACT
Roby - IMPACT
Crabtree - IMPACT

I would love that every 4/5 years the same as union do, I would add the rider that players would only be chosen from players who qualify by playing for the home nations, that would allow for players who opt for Scotland Ireland & Wales instead of England getting the lions share, I would also consider the French players to be included.

Reed has been in good form from what I've seen and he proved himself to be pretty handy for England last time out. I'd pick him over Atkins, however I'd probably still have him in the squad.

Tomkins
Charney
Watkins
Reed
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Mossop
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Burrow
L Burgess
Hock
Crabtree

Sinfield
Hill
Atkins
Briscoe
Carvell
Patrick
LMS
Ablett

Lifted straight off the other thread, heres my potential England World Cup squad:


1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Ryan Atkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. Adrian Morley
9. James Roby ©
10. James Graham
11. Gareth Hock
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Jonny Lomax (impact)
15. Kevin Sinfield (utility)
16. Lee Mossop
17. Sam Burgess

Squad members.

18. Tom Briscoe (wing cover)
19. Leroy Cudjoe (Centre cover)
20. Mike Mcllorum (hooker cover)
21. Rob Burrow (hooker/halves cover)
22. Jon Wilkin (utility)
23. Ben Westwood (forward cover)
24. Eorl Crabtree
25. Garreth Carvell

A good mix of youth, experience, with both specialist and utility value there I think.
I don't agree with Brough or Mcllorum playing for England, but they are the rules so ho hum.
Lomax, Mossop & Mcllorum will be a year older and wiser too.
Morley would be great to have around camp even though he wouldn't feature in every game.

Hopefully players like Stefan Ratchford, Kallum Watkins and the other three Burgess boys will have a great 2013 and will be making strong cases for a test shirt too

Interesting tactic, starting with just 12 players. We should, at least, win the sympathy vote.

I assume you would go with Roby at hooker.