That's all well and good Billy, but who's won the bet?????

From page 1 of this thread.....well persevered young William....cracking effort

Hull KR... 7495... (7786)


I can live with that given the North Stand was out of action all year. Hopefully now away fans have somewhere decent to sit we may see more making the jouney down the M62 next year.

Thanks William for your efforts, made for interesting reading, even tinged with the obvious negativity. Overall no need to top ourselves yet but lets see if the longer term trend of crowd increases returns next year and this was a blip or if there is a more serious problem for SL.

Interesting thread. More so for Smokey's meltdowns - absolutely top dollar entertainment.

I believe the thread was started because bill eve was trying to make some kind of point about Nigel Wood making a statement last year that crowds were up, which they clearly were as seen by this thread, bills point was and still is utterly ridiculous, I think he thinks the RFL should put out negative press releases or something. Anyway what we have learned is that apart from last year which as Nigel wood said was a big increase in crowds, this seasons crowds are pretty much on a par with other seasons.

Interesting take on the 10% drop in attendances..... it's OK to see a loss of over 1,000 fans per game over the course of the season as you added them the previous year.
The drop in interest in the game across the board (SKY weren't too bothered not to get the RLWC) and the reluctance of fans to pay full price for what they got discounted last year points to fans becoming disengaged with the sport and not interested in paying to see the pointless dross of a regular season that means little when it comes to the play-offs......HKR, who lost more games than they won in 2013 could technically win the competition

The thing is that Bradford, Salford & London are responsible for around 80,000 drop. A figure that would've seen the '09 - '11 all bettered.

So these results don't show us that SL on the whole is on the slide, it shows that clubs that have been/are being run quite badly just recently will be punished for it in terms of fans through the door.

Some peoples conclusion is that the drops are because Leeds winning from 5th has shown the regular rounds to lack meaning......well the yardstick Mr Eve used for attendances was 2012, a year that followed Leeds also winning the title from 5th, where the 8th placed team could have a shot at Old Trafford and where P/R didn't exist, so I don't think that conclusion holds much weight even if "you've got one mate who says he doesn't go for that reason".

Whilst the percentages are interesting. Surely the biggest factor in the drops are down to Saints and Bradford.

The massive % drops at Salford, look bad and they are for that club, but in terms of overall effect on the competition Bradford and Saints drop has a massive weighting on that.

At Saints we expected a drop due to last year being the first year in a new ground, although as fans we did not expect quite such a drop. But that was possible due to the style of rugby we churned out to get us out of a hole last year.

The Bradford drop I'd assume would be to do with fans turning up in greater numbers last year, buying extra ghost tickets to support the club during it's financial meltdown.

All in all it's a drop which is a disappointment but seems to be in line with the averages previously seen.

There may well be an increase next year if the new stand at Hull KR draws in extra punters.

It should draw in the punters. It's looking very good and most of it will be for away supporters.

Although we have far bigger issues, I'm pleased we still get people through the gate. The last game for Wakefield against Cas should have been another 3,000 more if we hadn't had the issues but that's how it is.
Although the cheap tickets have caused us a problem, the principleo f getting people to attend will help us in the long run as we have the interest to be able to take the club forward.
Good thread William Eve
I'm looking forward to next years.....