FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Probables v Possibles
20 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
International Star13No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2013Nov 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
53338_1288528504.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53338.gif



I think everyone can agree that English RL needs some sort of intermediary level of competition between the Super League and Internationals. Some form of games that will provide a step up in intensity and competition for our elite players, and a chance to assess and evaluate potential players and combinations for the England RL coaching staff. I think it has been proven that France do not provide a high enough standard of opposition, and many people would like to have a game against 'Other Nationalities'. While that idea sounds good on paper, in the long term (if our goal is to reduce the number of overseas players in the Super League) it is not viable.

We can't have a 'County of Origin' game, because that would limit us to Lancashire and Yorkshire and defeat the expansionist agenda.

So, how about an entirely new concept, which would be unique to RL. Probables v Possibles. Two 'All Star' teams, the Probables selected as those in the front running to represent England, and the Possibles, selected from those players on the fringes or coming through, eager to show what they can do in a non-club environment and against their more experienced fellow players. Both teams could be marketed as Barbarians-style sporting institutions. It would be an honour to appear for either. And the level of competition between the two, as they battle eachother literally for places in the England team, would surely be better than any game against France, Wales or Other Nationalities.

Thoughts?

RankPostsTeam
International Star5506No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50774_1329287946.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50774.jpg



Quote: Roy Haggerty "The Origin stuff is a red herring, in my view. The Kiwis are now way ahead of us, and their players don't play Origin. The Aussies don't get their better skills and mental toughness from three mid-season matches, either. The reason they're better than us is that every week they play to a higher standard, consistently, and they have tremendous pressure from below for their jerseys, so they can't afford a loss in form. There isn't a club in SL whose fans wouldn't be able to point to two or three players they carry as passengers every week after a loss of form. For example, at Saints, Gidley's been effectively non-existent this year, yet he's been on the field every time he's been fit. Why is that ? Because either we don't have anyone better, or our coaches are too conservative to risk throwing kids in. [iAnd because it doesn't matter [/i!

Saints can still finish second top even with passengers, and even with another second-row filling in on the opposite centre for much of the rest of the season. Think about that, for a minute. Saints played much of this season with one semi-retired Aussie (Gidley) one one side, and a solid-but-unspectacular second-row (Flannery) or crocked young stand-off (Wheeler), on the other. Every opposition team knew this, but Saints still won the great majority of their games and finished second. That tells you everything you need to know about why we can't field decent backs against the Aussies and Kiwis. It's got nothing to do with whether there is or isn't a spurious extra competition in mid-season. It's got everything to do with the fact that there are no decent backs out there.'"


difficult to disagree with any of that - Saints did remarkably well as you are indicating despite the failings of certain players and I would include Jon Wilkin to that list,for me a dissapointing season from a top player,not to mention the loss of Leon & Kyle for many games - we do appear to have the youth at our disposal and I too am bemused how Matt G kept his place.How do we raise the international level ? well,keeping the Gidleys & Menzies etc of this world instead of bringing in the kids through isn't helping - the old chestnut of too many overseas players is a factor of course tho' we need to regulate a bit more strictly the amount allowed at any given time - the Crusaders squads of recent years for example,have been a sad endightment of the younger british talent that is coming through the youth systems - looking at the Saints,Wigan,Wires & Leeds to name but a few) youngsters coming through means the future IS bright so,give them their chance.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5506No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50774_1329287946.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50774.jpg



Quote: Starbug "Oh goody
quite right - they will be weaker i 2011 imo but new signings are imminent acoording to Carlos so let's wait and see - the RFL are bending over backwards to keep their european dream afloat,hence the exemption

money is tight at TO as it is at most clubs nowadays but the problem lies with the RFL (god bless them) who seem intent on 'widening' the game and expanding - they see TO as future SL material and this will happen sooner or later whether you/we like it or not hence their efforts to help TO survive. I'm sure Lezignan will be pressing for Championship status in the near future.They have big ideas and seem to have the financial backing to make a serious bid so that would make three french clubs in the top two divisions of european RL - Nirvana for the RFL tho' probably disaster for you lot along the M62 corridor who seem intent on confining RL to the traditional northern heartlands

RankPostsTeam
International Star420No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2013Jul 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: roughyedspud "england v Other nationalities - 2 game series


and england 'A' v france and wales as curtain raisers


its not rocket science'"

Got to agree although Id prefer England A to play away in France and Wales rather than a curtain raiser

RankPostsTeam
Moderator7760No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2018Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
15_1451944442.gif
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_15.gif



Spots v Stripes - get Cadbury's to sponsor it - apparently we'll all have taken sides and will be embroiled in the spots v stripes battle by 2012.

RankPostsTeam
International Star5506No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
50774_1329287946.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50774.jpg



Quote: Toulouse for super L "Got to agree although Id prefer England A to play away in France and Wales rather than a curtain raiser'"



that's up to the wisdom of the FFR13 to try to get some decent international matches for the french fans - can't imagine we'll get too many teams willing to play a second-rate european nation on french soil except maybe the Italians or Russia maybe ?

20 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
20 posts in 2 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


3.47705078125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
Recent
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
Recent
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
134
Recent
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
Recent
Film game
karetaker
3668
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
58s
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40077
1m
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1330
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62437
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3083
1m
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
2m
Salford H
Roam Ranger
178
2m
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
2m
Betting 2024
karetaker
167
4m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
fuzzylogic22
2309
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
Rixy
2
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
A new low
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And Send Hull FC Bottom
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Points difference
orangeman
15
TODAY
Toulouse away
faxcar
19
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
TODAY
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
TODAY
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
TODAY
North Stand
NickyKiss
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
541
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
339
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
330
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
426
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
867
Salford Close In On The Play O..
843
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
981
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
939
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
981
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1205
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1290
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1390
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1334
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1569
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2157
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.63M 2,781 ↑5280,11914,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 19th Sep
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Huddersfield
v
Castleford
20:00
Wigan
v
Salford
 Fri 20th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Cronulla
v
NQL Cowboys
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
v
York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
 Sat 21st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Sydney
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
15:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
v
Dewsbury
18:00
Widnes
v
Toulouse
19:30
Wakefield
v
Barrow
 Sun 22nd Sep
       Championship 2024-R27
15:00
Batley
v
Swinton
15:00
Halifax
v
Bradford
15:00
Swinton
v
Doncaster
       League One 2024-R24
15:00
Hunslet
v
Midlands
15:00
Keighley
v
Rochdale
 Sat 28th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
17:00
Toulouse
v
Batley
 Sun 29th Sep
       Championship 2024-R28
15:00
Barrow
v
Widnes
15:00
Bradford
v
Swinton
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 19th Sep
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Castleford
SL
20:00
Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Leeds
SL
20:00
Leigh-St.Helens
SL
20:00
Warrington-LondonB
Sat 21st Sep
SL
15:00
Hull FC-Catalans
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
14:30
England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
Recent
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
Recent
Round 26 Wigan Away
Once were Lo
134
Recent
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
Recent
Film game
karetaker
3668
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
58s
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40077
1m
This weeks disciplinary
karetaker
1330
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
62437
1m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
Jake the Peg
3083
1m
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
2m
Salford H
Roam Ranger
178
2m
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
2m
Betting 2024
karetaker
167
4m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
fuzzylogic22
2309
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Playoff Semi Final
NickyKiss
2
TODAY
Bulls Accounts up to Nov 2023
Blotto
3
TODAY
Shareholders Meeting
Scarlet Pimp
4
TODAY
James Clark
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
Le Cats at home - Los Alomos Custers Last Stand
Hasbag
15
TODAY
Realistic targets for 2025
CarlB
25
TODAY
2024 Southstandercom Prediction Competition Week 27
Rixy
2
TODAY
Club Statement
UllFC
49
TODAY
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside York Knights Challenge
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Old FC when we knew how to play rugby
mk_fc
5
TODAY
WIRE YED Prediction Competition London Home
Wire Weaver
2
TODAY
Dons v Widnes - Sunday 15 September 2024
Kick and cha
6
TODAY
Catalans Keep Season Alive With Victory Over The Broncos
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
A new low
Jo Jumbuck
3
TODAY
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And Send Hull FC Bottom
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Points difference
orangeman
15
TODAY
Toulouse away
faxcar
19
TODAY
Todays game v Giants
Barbed Wire
52
TODAY
Staying or Not
fanstanningl
19
TODAY
Salford H Moved to Thursday
NickyKiss
26
TODAY
North Stand
NickyKiss
22
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
Wakefield Trinity Sweep Aside ..
541
Catalans Keep Season Alive Wit..
339
Salford Ensure Play-Offs And S..
330
Ruthless Wigan Thrash the Rhin..
426
Huddersfield Giants Hold Off L..
867
Salford Close In On The Play O..
843
Leigh Leopards Up To Fourth Af..
981
Leeds Rhinos Into the Six Afte..
939
Wigan Warriors Defeat Hull KR ..
981
Wane Names Provisional Squad f..
1205
Leeds Rhinos Ride Their Luck F..
1290
Wigan Warriors Level Top As Ca..
1390
Castleford Tigers Inflict Anot..
1334
Leigh Into the Six After Beati..
1569
Five Into Three - Our Top Six ..
2157


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!