You dispute away.

But I'm free not to believe you.

And I don't.

If rush dropped wheeler and prefers the older plsyers but he's picking wheeler tomorrow?

You can't beat someone with a brain and a strongly reasoned and 100% correct point trying to argue sense into the brick wall of SaintsFan and her barmy dogmatic opinions. I admire your determination but you're wasting your time matey - just move on and leave her to it...

Anyway, Wheeler has most assuredly been awful for much of the season - he may have been played out of position in a 3/4 line that's seen fewer balls than your average convent, but he's still been a huge disappointment and there's no way someone with his talent and ability should have been so comprehensively outperformed by an 18 year old. He's drinking at the last chance saloon next year and needs to get his sorry in gear. End of.

Shenton is injured and so the senior player in the position Wheeler has been filling (centre) won't be playing.

Rush therefore has a few options: play Wheeler in one centre spot and Jones in the other. Move Meli to centre and Jones in the other berth. Move a current regular into the centre spot. Bring in a new player entirely. Whatever the result, we have another bite at the cherry next week so it doesn't matter.

Given that Meli hasn't played in the centres since Rush took over I don't think he will start now. So that probably knocks that option out of the window.

That leaves three other options which may or may not involve Wheeler.

What point exactly? That backrowsaint claims to know a physio at Saints and therefore all else must be true? If you take that as a 100% correct point then your capacity for spotting reason or even knowing what 100% means is severely limited.


Oh look, you used the word 'dogmatic', presumably because someone else used it before you. But for you of all people to use it makes me laugh so much I think I might wet myself.

if you argue with an idiot they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience

Wheeler is 100% starting centre tomorrow.

Good.

You really need to stop talking to yourself Simon.

but i make more sense than everyone else

Oh I really can't be bothered anymore.

You're right, you're always right and you always will be right. You're never wrong and anything you say is indisputable. I'm sorry for even having a differing viewpoint from you, the almighty font of all knowledge.

Wello
Tommy
Wheeler
Jones
Meli
Hohaia
Lomax
Perry
Robes
Laffranchi
TP
Flanaghan
Wilkin

Clough
Sia
LMS
Dixon

More importantly do you think that the above team will beat warrington ? and are there any players due back from injury if we meet again ?

No and yes.

Any logical analysis says Warrington will win all things being equal and I wouldn't care too much if we lost so long as it's not too heavy. The really interesting game will be back at your gaff in 2 weeks' time though and the pressure and expectation on your lot could make for a very different outcome...

I've heard he picked up a knock in the captains run and will have a late fitness test. If he fails it's Meli to Centre and Gardner back in on the Wing.

Not sure on that but he's been picked in the original team on Thursday

Tipped over his ego in Bocboc and damaged his backbone.
Is rated as 50/50 at best.

Lots of arguing in here for a change.



The consensus seems to be that Josh Jones, a natural centre, has played better at centre this season than Gary Wheeler, a natural stand off. The big surprise here is what exactly?

Jones has been great this season and one of the few bright points for a lot of folks, but Wheeler should be playing in the halves and not put in the centre where he sees no ball and has to defend against people naturally bigger than him. Just an opinion though.

I think Melvin Udall (aka Jack Nicholas) describes the above arguement best, when he is describing how he writes women, in as good as it gets.

"I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability".

Hmm. Sexism. Isn't that against the AUP?

Bit Sun reader stylee at best. And that's an insult.

Wheeler has been playing centre in the first team for 2 years plus, he should be outperforming a debutant
in the position. How long did it take scrum half Wellens to become comfortable at FB?

Wheeler has had too much disruption due to injury. Happens to potential young stars. Cruel, but I can see him somewhere like Salford or Wakefield in a season or two unless Brown gives him a run at SO next season.