Although Nathan Brown is a good coach, i think some of the Saints fans are expecting the world back at thier feet with him. Huddersfield look un easy after loosing three on the trot. And i do not believe Brown will do much better than Rush with the current team you have.

It's going to be a tough few years before your come out of this current stage your going through. But it's a vital stage that you must carry out. Just like what happened to warriors before brian noble come along. Replacing the old experienced ones is a tough job!

Yes, well, like I said in my amended post, Simmons took us to a CC semi last year too and to a Grand Final. You can hardly hold it against him that he didn't do that this year given that he was sacked!

You thought Wheeler looked bad in defence? Did you see how bad Turner was in defence; several times worse!

Didn't see that game.

I was watching the hudds game at magic sunday and hudds right centre was ripped to shreds!

Any idea who he was?

One of the big problems I have with Wheeler is the way he seems to give up chasing defenders once they are past him. On a couple of occasions he could have got back to at least hamper Wigan breaks had he simply kept his foot on the pedal.

I noticed him shooting out of the line a number of times.