Why come out with all the homesickness stuff and how he couldn't possible return to the UK......when he allegedly didn't even finalise the contract with Leeds to play in 2017???

Yep, that last bit clearly is a desperate attempt.

For what it's worth, I'm sure he is 'homesick' or certainly would prefer to carry out is profession 'back home in Oz' - I don't actually think money is the driver, he would just prefer to be in Oz if he can get similar/reasonable money there - that was always his intention and he didn't hide it. Unfortunately for all concerned, the Sharks weren't able to offer a contract until a few weeks after he'd been left with no other NRL playing offers so had taken his only offer on the table at Leeds.

Ultimately though, GH has done a great bit of business and found a more than adequate replacement in Parcell (who's also probably cheaper). We no longer want or need Segeyaro, so cut him loose and put it down to experience. He's not covered himself in glory, if we just cut ties and play the bigger man, he's the only one who looks bad out of it all - as it is, I think Leeds are looking petty and uncompasionate.

As said before once you let one off his contract you are leaving the door wide open for anyone else to do the same . On another note Parcell will have a long way to go yet before he gets up to Judas level

You are claiming that some people on here are " psychiatric experts " and then go on to say that his father dies in 2015 and this might explain..... So come on then when did you have him on your psychiatric couch ?.

Leeds have moved on by signing a New hooker and passing it off to the lawyers to sort out.

Only people not to have moved on with this matter is us keyboard psychiatric lawyers. Soon as the season starts I am sure this sad person will be confined to the rubbish bin of history.

Nah, William'll stick around this year I reckon



Seriously though, this has gone far enough for me. Too much more and the club'll start coming across like the bloke who batters his ex for leaving him.

Tbf they're asking for a transfer fee......hardly a crime or unreasonable request. No one is expecting the £250k figure but Cronulla dont seem to have even offered £25. If we had turned down a couple of reasonable offers then I could understand the argument that we're being harsh.

If Leeds were out of pocket I might incline more towards this view. As it is, we're rid of a player of questionable temperament.

I think the solomona case has affected this one too. RL clubs have realised they have to make a stand. also NRL clubs are worried about losing players to RU as well

I wouldn't bet on it, but more to the point... if there is an upturn in the clubs fortunes, will the likes of El Diablo, G1, Tony Soprano, nantwichexile, Fat Boy and Gilder return?



Or maybe I'll stick around just to post "leftist" comments and opinions? I have no problem whatsoever upsetting selfish, right-wing, neoliberal, angry kippers or even worse "rightist" specimens than that!




Well said.

Think it's a disgrace an Australian based player signing a contract then halfway through wanting out.
Then using the homesick card and returning to Australia is totally unacceptable.
The only thing worse is if the Player claiming homesickness then signed for another club in the same competition. Now where have we seen that before.

Don't be so ridiculous.

Joel is almost home whilst plying his trade at Leeds.

Salford to Brisbane = 10,237 miles.
Leeds to Brisbane = 10,200 miles.

Hope the info above leads to a more level-headed perspective on your part.

i get the motivation to try and play the good guy here, but there is a strong case of players needing to be careful what they wish for here because a contract that they don't have to honour, is also one that clubs don't have to honour.

And its not just the removal of that security that will be to their detriment. It increases the value of a player to a club to not only have him, but prevent anyone else having him. Having the player as an asset increases his value to a club, not having him as an asset will reduce his value. Not to mention the value to the club of being able to plan on having a player, again without that a player is far less valuable to a club - and all these lower values would result for most players in a lower wage and less security. If a player can walk out on a contract on a whim, why not have them on a sporting equivalent of a zero hours contract? If the club get no security, why offer anything further than a pay as you play deal?

This may be a Randian wet-dream for the Murdoch-right, and in fact no doubt some of the very best players would make an awful lot of more money selling their services to the highest bidder every week, but for most players, including those of Segeyaro's level it would a gig-economy nightmare. Lets not forget Segeyaro took a wage from Penrith for nigh on year despite playing only 4 games, and prior to his cameo at Leeds last year couldnt find a gig in the NRL.

Well they've had to go out and spend money on Parcell so will be out of pocket.

Ateotd in sport if Club A wants to sign Club B's player then they offer a fee, that's all this is but has been complicated by said player & agent because Club A don't want to pay a fee.

I'm 100% with Hetherington on this one. Once you sign a contract you have both legal and moral obligations and if you're not prepared to match up to those there have to be consequences. Leeds aren't the bad guy here, and no amount of pursuing some form of compensation will make it so the club is in the wrong. Both sides signed a contract and only one was prepared to fulfil it. If it were the other way around and Segeyaro had been left without a club and none wanted to take him do you think his lawyers would have just gone 'Oh well, let's be the bigger men in this and forget it'? No, they would have demanded full payment of his remaining contract.

A stand needs to be taken for the good of the sport.

^^^^^ It's as simple as that

Excellent post

This I guess is also Gary Hetherington's point of view on the matter.If we get dry bummed with this Segeyaro contract dispute then the flood gates will be open and plenty more clubs will have to suffer the consequences down the track.
A stand needs to be taken here.

Cronulla need to agree a transfer fee if they want him,if they don't wish to pay one then IMO they can get f**ked

Bang on! 100% correct. I genuinely have trouble understanding how others have a different view point.

Me too. There is no other way of approaching this situation.

So if nobody is prepared to pay a fee then what do Leeds gain other than my dad is bigger than your dad?

If most on here think it will make players see out their contracts I personally don't agree - we have seen with Carroll, Buderus and Eastwood the exact same scenario i.e. I want to cut my contract short and the reaction of the club to be very different. All the above made the same commitment as Segayaro and failed to come good on their word

In Segeyaro's case he went runnning to the press to try and force Leeds' hand, Buderus etc. didn't do that and I think if Segeyaro had kept this behind closed doors with GH and the club and asked if he could leave that way he may well have gotten his wish or at least stood a better chance than the tactic he went for.

Leeds still stand to make a transfer fee, if not now and if not Cronulla then someone will need a hooker sometime this year through injury to a starting 9 or planning for their squad for 2018.

different scenarios.

Carrol had a 2-4 year deal with a return to Nrl clause after two years, and he informed the club half way through season 2 that he was returning to Brisbane.

Buderus asked for a release for one final hurrah, if Newcastle had not come calling or a deal could not have been done he would have stayed, and being a model professional would have given is all.

similar to Eastwood, lad not happy but put in a shift and would have played on if deal was not done. was honest and upfront about it.

segayero as not been professional or honest upfront, just acted like a spoilt brat who wants his own way.

Scott Donald also reneged on his contract early.

he did as he went to join the police, but again all above board and done through the right channels and went with the clubs blessing.

The point is you will always get overseas players who will not see their contract out regardless of the example you set with Segayaro

Graham Murray is seen as a club legend but he did the same - an NRL club knocking and off he went taking with him arguably one of the best players in the whole competition.

It will always be with the clubs blessing when they have a replacement already, and are happy enough to release.

Segayaro was world class, and saved us from relegation. The club therefore knew the importance of keeping him. They also knew he wanted to be in the NRL if he could, but chose to forget that bit.