Surely this has to be all Thatcher's fault.

It maybe easy for you to make a judgement but the reality is that the detail of the package depends on the results of the negotiation and the shape of the economy in 2+ years time. I do not think the public believe any of the politicians promises and I think they made their decisions on one or more of the three main issues. 1. Sovereignty, democracy and full control of our affairs, 2 The economy, 3 Control of immigration and not the exact amount the NHS may gain

Also there is a big difference between the freedom of movement to move then seek work in another country and the freedom to apply for a job and then only move if you get the job..

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0Gqp6HP ... /giphy.gif The dawning realisation that Article 50 will not be invoked because to leave means continued free movement and a continued open border with the EU anyway Things are begining to deflate ...starting with the footie tonight

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0Gqp6HP ... /giphy.gif The dawning realisation that Article 50 will not be invoked because to leave means continued free movement and a continued open border with the EU anyway Things are begining to deflate ...starting with the footie tonight

The England players doing their best to take a lot of the spotlight off the politicians.

Whoever said leaving the EU was the most baffling decision made obviously hasn't seen Harry Kane being chosen for free kick duty.

I'm still completely baffled by what exactly that is on top of Wayne Rooney's head. If it's real hair then Joe Hart is a real goalkeeper.

At least the England soccer team invoked their own version of Article 50.

All that money in the PL yet how many of the real top players in the world actually play in it?

The results in the Champions league show how poor the standards are - lots of average players getting paid monster money and English players still can't get a game.

What do we really expect from our national side - it is full of average at best players with poor technique and no heart/desire - shambles

they have heart/desire, that's plain to see.
what they don't have is tactical acumen as it's not needed in our game and we don't have a really top class coach. the last 3/4 England managers/coaches have been terrible choices. the list to take over is worse still

agreed, Southgate the bookies favorite





TBH it is slim pickings. For me, going back to a true technical maverick in Glenn Hoddle would be the right choice but the FA haven't got the balls to back track, they need a yes man that fits their rigid way of thinking so we will go on failing at tournaments playing turgid football like last night.

That's similar to what I said in reply to Billy Eve at the weekend. I've not voted Labour in a general election since 1992. I can't see that changing.

As a caring socialist I will try & help you. They are further education. No.

I disagree - which player in that team did a Sinfield or a Peacock and got stuck in with a view to influencing the outcome of the game?

Rooney was the supposed leader yet his technique is appalling, he basically gave up in the second half as did the rest of them. They have a goalie who is incapable of an error free game - Kane has the touch of a sledge hammer. Why did he play a left footed player on the right wing? etc.

The English game is a joke - the standard of the players is appalling given how many people we have playing the game and the amount of money available to support it - Hodgson was on £3.5m!!

Get Billic on board.

"Mike Bassett, Enhland Manager"looking more like a documentary after watching Roy in action.

Why is it that you have to add the word caring to describe yourself? Is it to distance yourself from the uncaring socialists?

Ok then which University do you work in and in what capacity?

having no leaders is different from not having good quality players as the rhinos have found out this year. every team, for some odd reason has wrong footed players on the flanks. seems strange to me as it makes the pitch narrower

Changing England manager is proper deckchairs on the Titanic stuff.

You could put the ghost of Alf Ramsey in charge and it wouldn't make a difference. We fall down right from the time we make 10 year olds play on full size pitches with full size balls in the middle of winter.

Technique in most sports is basically muscle memory. You practice skills over and over until they become ingrained in your body and you can reproduce them under pressure without having to think. The younger you start working on technique, the more chance there is of it becoming second nature.

Instead, we have a youth game which values being able to run all day and not being scared to put your foot in ahead of what you can actually do with the ball. Players come through youth systems who are athletes first, footballers second. The likes of Walcott and Sterling have made multi-million pound careers out of basically being quick over ten yards.

When we come up against teams who sit deep and don't leave space in behind, that pace advantage is negated and they become ineffective. Daniel Sturridge has a right foot that he can barely use to stand on, let alone control the ball with. Yet he's considered one of the best strikers in England. As a result, some pretty mediocre footballers (in the global scheme of things) are making ridiculous livings off the back of Sky Sports subscribers and advertisers.

Until the focus shifts from producing players who can "put in a shift" to developing players who are comfortable with the ball at their feet, England will continue to suffer disappointment after disappointment in major tournaments while Sky continue to hype the Premier League as the "best league in the world".

God you do talk some rubbish!

The players can do it for their clubs, so the problem is either with the manager or mentality in camp

We used to have Gerrard Beckham Terry and Ferdinand in the same team but still failed, so leaders is not the issue
Joe Hart can seem to get through plenty of games without mistakes against better opposition in the champions league
Kane has the touch of a sledgehammer but scored 25 perm goals this year? then how many goals would he score if he improved it? 40 a season?

I agree regarding lack of heart and desire. Rashford only got a cameo and I thought Vardy tried when he came on but the horse had already bolted for the rest of the team.

Ability wise they obviously aren't as good as some like the Germans and Spainish but they were better than the teams we did face. The problem last night was that they were mentally weak. The first half was poor, the second dreadful. They came out in the 2nd half looking like rabbits caught in the headlights terrified at the thought of the stick they'd get if they lost, even though they still could've saved it at that point.

If Southgate is appointed nothing will change. An FA yes man already in the setup who use to coach Middlesboro....we were there before with McLaren.

Jean-Claude Juncker is on his feet addressing the European Parliament now and has said there will be no preliminary, informal discussions between the EU and UK representatives prior to triggering article 50.

No secret negotiations, he's said it three times now.

That's a good point. Caring should automatically be in the JD of a socialist. Which might explain supposed socialists switching to UKIP.



If you are very interested I will PM you, but as I am supposed to be working for them as I am typing this it's best I do not publicise it. There are a handful on here who I am quite fond of who know me.

Although I agree there is not much room to trim from 0.5%, there appears a fair chance we could see a nudge down to 0.375% or 0.25% before Santa comes.

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ate-Brexit

www.express.co.uk/news/politics/ ... ate-Brexit

Referendum?Higher Education?Football?thought this was. RL site?

Farage on his feet now to a warm reception. This should be interesting.

Desperate even by the Express's low standards. Gutteridge is an apt name for the reporter.