We are desperate for a big go forward propor two, backs don't stand a chance without the go forward

That’s far too sensible, to some the wins don’t matter, only the losses and you can’t take anything from a good win only from a loss, we could finish in the top 4 this year and people would still bang in about the losses and not look at any positives.

It also seems people cannot look beyond the last game as if that must be the true test of where the team is at - it’s not, as has been pointed out sometimes teams get a good spanking even championship winning ones (see us against cas in 2017)

To some that GF win probably doesnt count cos Cas were poop on the night lol.

They are history - what impact do they have on what happened on Sunday?

Absolutely nothing and no one said it did, we were both using the past to prove a point about the present.

If anyone had come on here after we nilled Warrington and said we were going to be champions and everything was great all the players were too notch etc etc, it would be rightly said to be daft and an over reaction. That’s no different from everyone over reacting to a bad loss, which this forum always does.

we probably are overacheiving so far. i think we hit our maximum capabilities for this group before lockdown whilst others were off the pace leading to us being around the top. Warrington being one team way off and even Saints were levels off their best. Since the restart we have been way off and we can't afford to be anything too far below our maximum or we will be exposed badly as has happened the last games, i know we beat Hudds but it was poop in the main.
be interesting to see the response this week.