Westwood and Briers amongst others seem to want to gain advantage by foul play

Is Tony Smith encouraging a foul play culture and do Leeds need to follow suit to compete next year

Interested in other fans views

To respond to the OP, Westwood is a proper rufty-tufty forward, one of the best in SL, who I'd have had in my team any day.
Briers isn't dirty either, maybe he'd like to be but he's more petulant than dirty.

Genuine dirty players, e.g. Sonny Nickle, aren't that common.

Because you never really asked a question, you made a statement that young ones would always beat old ones.

I picked you up on that by asking you a question, why these young ones didn't beat the old ones in 2012. Someone else answered for you that it was that they had a years more experience.

Ok, but wasn't it Matty Smith and Blake Green, hardly youngsters who have picked up the MOM awards in the finals and players that weren't there 18 months ago. Wasn't McIlorum key (and probably MOM), he already had a GF in 2010 so hardly can use needed a years extra experience tag in 2013. Likewise Tomkins, Try scorer Goulding, returning captain and assist in last try O'Loughlin, 14 point haul and ex Man of Steel Richards, game changing tackles both last week and this Hansen, and another previous GF winner Farrell

So have the youngsters been key to Wigan's success? No, not key, yes they've played a part, teams win titles not individuals but no way can you say the youngsters were THE KEY.......unless of course you need to have a pop at the Leeds forwards age.

In the final Wigan had two players over the age of 30. Wire had eight.
To say that the likes of Charnley 22, Farrell 23, Thornley 22, Taylor 22 etc haven't had major influence this year at Wigan is off track imo.

The have had influences indeed, Charnley of course with the amount of tries he had scored, but he did similar in 2012 and scored well in 2011 too. So again what's the difference between 2012 & 2013?
Thornley ended the year well with a try at Wembley and against Leeds, but I never saw last years LC Carmont sent to South Wales or Leigh on Dual Reg or loan.
I as pointed out previously Farrell was already a GF winner....he also was a CC winner, 2 time LLS winner, and appeared in a WCC before the playoff meeting last year.
Taylor might have had a good year but then again Peacock was the only prop on the MOS shortlist.

And two of those mentioned are backs, we aren't exactly in a bad place too with 1 to 5 and the same 'argument' about them having another years experience and being 'good young 'uns' could then too be applied to them.......which leaves us with and leads us back to the repetitive moan......our forwards are too old. But then again some said Peacock should retire at the end of last year and it was a mistake for him to be playing in 2013.

Again I'll say, Wigan beat us and Wire in the playoffs, not because of the age of their team, but simply because they played better, simple.