Clearly the most powerful winger in England and a very good finisher to boot.

It's pleasing to see criticism of the idea of moving him to .

Our England have a problem with passing accuracy as it is 'cough cough Atkins cough cough', do we really think that Ryan would improve that area?

The best winger in the country....does not mean automatically he'd make a good

I think Tomkins is a good player, but he is over-rated. Not in the sense that he doesnt have the ability, in the sense that a lot of people rave about him as the complete package when he hasnt yet fulfilled his potential.

His decision making at times can be appalling, his attitude worse. When in a 'hole' rather than dig in as part of the team he has a tendency to force it at completely the wrong time. I think as well he needs to up his kicking game (both long and short) and his passing/organisation skills if he is to make even a decent career at stand-off, or his positioning, and defensive skills, as well as the when is the right time to show his attacking skills if he is to make a fullback.

I think that is the problem, people talk about Tomkins as if he has already made it world class, imo i dont think he is close, all he has done is show he has the potential to be world class (which is no mean feat).

I would also say that if he does it will be at fullback, i dont think he would make even Mcguire's level at S-O

You said you only saw when he played on Sky. What proportion of the games was that?
I thought it a bit odd you stuck to SO, when he played 2.3 of the 3 internationals at fullback. Maybe you didn't watch all the internationals either?

Maybe you see different requirements of a stand off and fullback to me. In which case me saying what he's good at would be largely irrelevant. How about you say what the qualities are and why you think he doesn't have them, and I'll tell you why you're wrong After all, I'm not the one claiming a current 21 year old England international, 2009 rookie of the year, two time young player of the year winner, 2009 Dream Team member, isn't international quality and wouldn't look good in anothe rteam.

Can you try to be a bit more descriptive and objective and precise than your criticisms so far of "questionable decision making" (what decisions? When?) and "his attitude is out of place on a rugby pitch" (WTF?!) and the "Give him any other jersey and he would look abject at best" (Why? Which jerseys? Thought he looked pretty good when getting a MOM award for England in October 2009 TBH)

Tomkins imho would be a regular starter at any sl or nrl club. If not one of the first names on the team sheet despite having a poor tour.

That's just my opinion

He's a very good prospect, but he is definitely not the finished article. Its taken McGuire a long time to start to show signs that he can become a very good orthodox stand off without blunting the rest of his game (he still has a way to go with some basics such as kicking though). Tomkins will probably take a long time as well, if he ever does. The sad thing is if he stays in SL he won't get quickly pushed to make the improvements in his game that are clearly required. Why would he need to? GF winner, awards coming out of his ears.